WannabeOwner
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Agreed, but if that is 6 months it would be handy at resale time ... but if it is "tomorrow" then it may be at a lower price than LR AWD cost originally (to not compete with P-) and that won't be great ...
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Agreed, but if that is 6 months it would be handy at resale time ... but if it is "tomorrow" then it may be at a lower price than LR AWD cost originally (to not compete with P-) and that won't be great ...
That would be a no-brainer upgrade for me if I was sitting on a LR AWD order unless a tow bar was an absolute necessity.
ediflyer
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£2,440 if you have FSD locked in at the lower price though - no tow bar but it's a lot of extra cash for a minor tweak
navt
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I know it's a moot point, but I'd cancel the FSD and accept that when it's actually available it'll cost more - but that could be a few years away. Horses for courses though.£2,440 if you have FSD locked in at the lower price though - no tow bar but it's a lot of extra cash for a minor tweak
interbear
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I was originally going to order the LR AWD but it disappeared so I went with the P- at the revised price.
If they re-introduced the LR AWD then they’d either have to do so at a lower price than it’s original price or put the P model price back up. If the former I’d probably edit my order and go with the LR AWD for extra range and lower insurance costs, plus a towbar which I would find useful for bikes. However I think that’s unlikely and Tesla will more likely increase the P price to create some differentiation. Margin being king.
So right now I’m happy enough with the P- it’s pretty decent value compared to the original P pricing.
I think the LR AWD will have the same range as the P lite (assuming both are on 18” Aeros), but the insurance is definitely more.
interbear
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The person I spoke to at Tesla Cribbs (Bristol) said the same to me at the weekend.
I initially thought that would be the case but I’ve read about people in the USA ordering a P, received an AWD and then it gets sorted st a service centre via and update, no physical changes. I’m not sure that the showroom staff know a lot more than some owners. Either way, I expect the difference will be marginal.
RjbT3
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I've ordered a LR AWD and I was told the electric motors were identical (as-in PMSRM (Permanent Magnet Switched Reluctance Motor) on the rear axle and an Induction motor on the front) but the software unlock makes them run less efficiently, even when not "pushed" to peak power output.
Of course, I have no idea if any of this is true, but I was told the LR AWD has identical motors as the P (and now the same wheels, tyres etc. as the P-) but a longer range due to the firmware/software differences.
Rear electric motor:
For P 202 kW 2019 Tesla Model 3 Performance AWD - Specifications
For AWD LR: 188 kW 2019 Tesla Model 3 Long Range AWD - Specifications
For P 202 kW 2019 Tesla Model 3 Performance AWD - Specifications
For AWD LR: 188 kW 2019 Tesla Model 3 Long Range AWD - Specifications
RjbT3
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That could be different power output due to software but the exact same motor.
ediflyer
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Although interestingly range being reported at Tesla Range Table - Teslike.com is the same for both P- AWD and LR AWD when both have 18" Aeros...
PS also interesting to note the LR/18" aero that stopped being produced in Mar 2019 had a longer range than the new one. Would possibly fit with how they've changed things here.
EDIT: although a helpful poster on the Model 3 Reservation Facebook Group has also pointed out the previous LR model was an RWD version which might account for the difference...
PS also interesting to note the LR/18" aero that stopped being produced in Mar 2019 had a longer range than the new one. Would possibly fit with how they've changed things here.
EDIT: although a helpful poster on the Model 3 Reservation Facebook Group has also pointed out the previous LR model was an RWD version which might account for the difference...
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That LR/18" Aero hasn't "stopped being produced in March 2019". It's the RWD LR (which you can still order off-menu in continental Europe and the US), and there was no need to recertify it, that's all.
It's unsure whether any RHD versions have been made, though.
It's unsure whether any RHD versions have been made, though.
ediflyer
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Ah OK - just I saw 'production end date' which made me think they'd stopped making it. All seemed a bit unclear as some Tesla staff were saying LR was going to go for all markets, not just RHD.
They've been saying that for years, and it is indeed out of the configurator everywhere (it's an off menu configuration). But they stuffed a few ships to Europe full of them in April nonetheless.
It’s the configuration that refuses to die, partly because it really is the longest range configuration — the AWD/P- versions have the same battery but schlepping that extra motor around does have its cost.
It’s the configuration that refuses to die, partly because it really is the longest range configuration — the AWD/P- versions have the same battery but schlepping that extra motor around does have its cost.
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RjbT3
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Does anyone remember what the online UK configurator originally stated the range was on the LR AWD?
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