Zilla91
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Having frequented Audi and BMW forums, I can tell you that discussion does happen.Do we see that discussion on the other forums?
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Having frequented Audi and BMW forums, I can tell you that discussion does happen.Do we see that discussion on the other forums?
Isn't that just under £36k,,,,If I lived in Dublin and not Belfast I could order a new white M3 for just €40,300 ! No sign of UK cuts ?
Also if you did that you could get black paint without extra costIf I lived in Dublin and not Belfast I could order a new white M3 for just €40,300 ! No sign of UK cuts ?
Black is not free here in Ireland on the M3, but is on the MY for some reasonAlso if you did that you could get black paint without extra cost
The larger ones can fit nearly 6000 cars on 19 decks. Maybe it's cheaper to send it back as they probably go back nearly empty! Probably a few hundred tons of fuel is a good million quid? You're paying for the fuel both ways as the ship goes back nearly empty. Doubt anyone's got 6000 cars to ship to China! The ships probably cost up to £200m to make so there's costs to spread this around, profits and crew (though not many of them on these ships- probably only 15-20). I've seen the videos where they have about 100 staff driving them off in a shift. Yeah, probably closer to £1000 per car on reflection.The shipping cost from China really not a lot per car and is probably less than the cost to truck then from Germany to the U.K. They bring thousands over on a single roll on roll off ships.
Say it’s £1000 per car and 2000 cars on a boat, that’s £2million for a single sailing that takes a couple of weeks. I’m pretty sure than can fit more than 2000 cars on on a single ship. I can’t see it being north of £2million.
The ‘killer’ in terms of cost is the 10% import tariff that gets passed on to us.
Edit: I just checked and I could ship my own car to Hong Kong from Southampton via a roll on roll off ferry for £640. Obviously I’d have to get it there and arrange pickup. If Tesla are chartering the entire boat, you can guarantee they are paying less.
Not the size and weight of Teslas. Probably 4,500 is the max.The larger ones can fit nearly 6000 cars on 19 decks.
The larger ones can fit nearly 6000 cars on 19 decks. Maybe it's cheaper to send it back as they probably go back nearly empty! Probably a few hundred tons of fuel is a good million quid? You're paying for the fuel both ways as the ship goes back nearly empty. Doubt anyone's got 6000 cars to ship to China! The ships probably cost up to £200m to make so there's costs to spread this around, profits and crew (though not many of them on these ships- probably only 15-20). I've seen the videos where they have about 100 staff driving them off in a shift. Yeah, probably closer to £1000 per car on reflection.
He knows the numbers of vehicles on whatever types of ships so may be able to help with an opinion of the likely cost per car.
Precisely this. The price might be lower but the cost to own won't be, if anything a lower GFV and higher interest rates mean it might be even more expensive even if, on paper, the price of the car comes down.If you were a finance company surely you'd want to err on the side of caution and assume a lower GFV than is suggested by the current price?
going to have to happen at some point. And if you just want a performance to drive it may be a good deal though I would argue if you want the "old"model at this point a used one would be a better bet because whatever you save now is going to cost you later in depreciation vs the new model if 2023 versions of both exist come resale time. not to mention any new refinements the highland model has....Model 3 Performance now £52,290! Stock clear out ahead of Highland I think?
a used one would be a better bet
Yeah, just look for the ones needing a full alloy wheel refurbishmentAny "M3 full-on-performance model, one careful lady owner" in Inventory?
going to have to happen at some point. And if you just want a performance to drive it may be a good deal though I would argue if you want the "old"model at this point a used one would be a better bet because whatever you save now is going to cost you later in depreciation vs the new model if 2023 versions of both exist come resale time. not to mention any new refinements the highland model has....
No idea. maybe any or all ofwhat do we think they might have held back? They’ve been pretty regular with updates since introducting the model 3. Unlike other cars that tend to hold changes back for mid-cycle refreshes or new model designs its much more incremental with tesla