That’s the only thing I can prove I spend 70+k for my model 3.
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[Update: It happened] Track Mode not happening for P3d-
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These things are easy replacable. Someone buy RWD can paint their calipers and upgrade rotors as they want. Same as the badge and spoiler. I may also upgrade to aftermarket products for better performance.
What’s on the screen is the only thing would never go.
True. I've already replaced my front rotors, sold my 20's, and still don't have a badge or spoiler. But, I'm not all that concerned if people know that I spent $70k+ (before refunds and tax incentives).
Knightshade
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Track Mode Disclaimer Message on the car said:
Huh... I'd have sworn there were folks insisting there'd be no difference and nothing in the design or programming would've been specific to the P3D+ items...
I guess we'll have to see if the message changes on a P3D+ after one gets the update
caskater47
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All this reads to me is if you have stock Stealth parts you will hit thermal limits faster. But if install aftermarket tires and brakes (the only appreciable diff with PUP) then Track Mode should perform the same as a P3D+ or better depending on the parts.
I agree, based on the message it seems that Tesla is delivering the exact same track mode to the P-, and could probably deliver the same to the standard AWD model if they wanted to.
I would more so insist that the feedback control systems would be able to adapt to variations in tires/brakes/ect.
Perry
Active Member
Can we get a picture of your energy use while using track mode?
Perry
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Perry
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Yes, that was me and I will continue to say that no Track Mode operational code needed to be altered between P+ and P- because it was designed like I thought, properly, not relying on performance characteristics of specific hardware but strictly on a closed system sensory loop from the get-go.
And of course the text language and probably the flags to included this feature in the P- variant is a tiny code change but that's not the point I've tried to make in the past. My point was to categorically debunk the idea that Track Mode was so poorly designed as to have a total reliance on the small hardware differences between the P+ and the P- parts and that the reason it was released so late was because it needed all kinds of new development and testing.
I said that then and I still contend now more than ever that there was no special development for the P- Track Mode and they could have released it months ago.
Perry
Active Member
The 5% power bump is not in this release. I don't think that has been released to anyone yet. My friend has v2019.7.11 and its not in that one either.
It's been a minute since my dynamic controls courses, but I wouldn't trust a company developing AP logic that couldn't implement proper control logic for traction/stability control that didn't rely on fixed responses for tire and braking models.
...yea, but the P crowd needs some bones to feel like the extra $ was worth it. Track Mode was one of those things that was advertised, and help push many owners over the edge to go from AWD to P.
Perry
Active Member
Yes I agree, if you are taking about calibrating the software on a robot who's job is creating 2nm soldering connections on a micro processor.
But like I said before, Track Mode has to be way more resilient than that to work because the road conditions together with the equipment ware are far larger factors on braking performance than the small differences between P+ and P-. I think they have to account for much larger fluctuations in behavior anyway even if it was only to work on P+.
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