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That 371kW draw is higher than my P85 Sig has ever seen (REST telemetry for about 2 years). Just sayin'.Definitely not a placebo effect. New run today in sport mode: peak power draw 371kW (vs. 323 on Wednesday). It was honestly slightly terrifying as the driver.
Definitely not pissed. Excited for you guys that the S85D is an even stronger offering than we thought.Sorry, but I had to ask
370KW = 495hp
So how have you got 495hp out of 2x 221hp = 422hp motors that are supposedly only rated at 211hp in the S85D.
Not only that, you are well under 4secs for the 0-60 from your chart.
Now I am really confused (and P85D owners going to be pretty pissed too)
That 371kW draw is higher than my P85 Sig has ever seen (REST telemetry for about 2 years). Just sayin'.
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Definitely not pissed. Excited for you guys that the S85D is an even stronger offering than we thought.
Not p'd at all. I can still outrun you, even if it's only by a little bit! I've gotta say, though... If I were ordering now, I might have gone with the 85D. It's a really strong offering.
I'm curious to see the first 85D / P85D drag video.
The question that is rolling around in my engineering mind is: did TM achieve this hp increase by boosting the (constant) torque of the motor, the max current draw of the motor (my suspicion), or a combination of both? The first would boost acceleration times, the second would show up more significantly in higher top speeds. Has anyone seen any updates to the motor torque ratings? (My bet would be the so-called "overclocking" is basically just that - they are allowing more current draw at the top end, meaning higher horsepower, meaning higher top speeds.) If I had the time today, I would be doing a lot of Photoshop/overlays of the @Stoneymonster curves to understand the slope of the power/speed curves to tease out torque and torque differences between pre and post "sport mode" blasts...
I'm looking forward to the 85D / P85 drag video given the current info.I'm curious to see the first 85D / P85D drag video.
When the specs changed on the website, I asked my Tesla representative what was happening. He said the specification improvements were a result of Tesla learning that the drive system was more robust than they had previously believed. He used the word 'overclocked' in his explanation, which would seem to fit a good deal of what you're thinking.The question that is rolling around in my engineering mind is: did TM achieve this hp increase by boosting the (constant) torque of the motor, the max current draw of the motor (my suspicion), or a combination of both?
The 85D puts a huge damper on P85 resale value. I can configure a brand new 85D with all the same things my Dec 2012 P85 has and it costs pretty much the same. Except the new 85D is dual motor, has auto pilot potential, etc. And the 85D is just as fast 0-60 and probably faster in the 0-30 due to AWD.
I have a huge, huge level of regret purchasing when I did. I knew there'd be changes, but this is far beyond what Elon/Tesla had mentioned back when they were asked about potential changes in the future. Specifically, he said they didn't expect much significant change until a mid-model refresh a few years down the line. If I'd had any inkling of the massive level of changes that'd be put into place 2 years later, I'd have waited (and been a far richer man since I wouldn't have cached out stock to pay for my car....).
People sometimes analogize the pace of improvement by referencing something like iPhones, but I could afford to buy a new phone every couple years. Tesla is a once in a lifetime splurge for someone at my income level, a car I'd planned on having 15-20 years. Even just having used Adaptive Cruise Control on a loaner...damn, I'd happily have driven my crappy old ICE for 2 more years to have 15 years with a car with the autopilot sensors. It hurts knowing I missed my one shot.
It's good for Tesla though and it's good that's it's pushing forward the EV movement in general.
But for me...damn...huge early adopter regret.
... Today we have the model lineup that we should have had at launch in 2012.
I have a huge, huge level of regret purchasing when I did. I knew there'd be changes, but this is far beyond what Elon/Tesla had mentioned back when they were asked about potential changes in the future. Specifically, he said they didn't expect much significant change until a mid-model refresh a few years down the line. If I'd had any inkling of the massive level of changes that'd be put into place 2 years later, I'd have waited (and been a far richer man since I wouldn't have cached out stock to pay for my car....).
^ Sport Mode presumably?
climbs to max hp in just over a couple of seconds now.
Impressive
I started a thread about the fast change here: http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/show...ld-Excitement-Disappointment-Faster-than-Fast
I got my 85D about a month ago.
I was disappointed when the 70D came out.
This thread got me excited about having an 85D.
I was on a trip last weekend with 199 mi between SupCs, and barely made it with my 85kW, so do I want less battery?
Definitely first world problems.
Tesla is going to change fast, faster than any known car company because of how they are doing this.
As someone said above, I am sure my 85D will be replaced, sooner than I would like.
I DOESN'T MAKE MY CAR WORSE when they come out with something better.
We bought the future and this is it!
Drive on!