Ya not really balanced. Even when he wanted to critique something, he just couldn’t. I appreciated the video and some of the reasonings thou. Would gone a lot further if it was more balanced.
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v11 software update SUCKS
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Ya not really balanced. Even when he wanted to critique something, he just couldn’t. I appreciated the video and some of the reasonings thou. Would gone a lot further if it was more balanced.
This thread is about a UI update that most owners seem to think is very bad. You have responded with "... but voice commands...". The voice commands haven't changed with this update, and are not relevant. I'm happy that the car provides voice commands, although I typically only use them for a navigation destination.
The software UI is very important, and in no way do voice commands make it less important. Prior to v11, my vehicle had voice commands AND a fairly intuitive software user interface.
_Redshift_
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Certifiable. Even in his tutorial as he keeps insisting that the defrost button is now easier to tap into, he is having issues with the swipe up climate screen.
No kidding, not only did this UI "update" screw up everything you have mentioned, they also made it so that if you want to adjust the heated seats and the climate is off, it will turn on the climate every time you access the screen. I often run the heated seats but turn off the climate, now the damn climate comes on every time I want to make a simple change to heated seats. This update sucks and made the car worse. Incredibly disappointed!
TexasTezla
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I like the new UI...I like voice commands. If people have problems there are solutions. I was offering a solution. I could care less whether other owners like it or not! That is an irrelevancy. If you like something that others don't like, like a TV show, do you care???
I’m not sure if they would be offended or not. It’s me - not necessarily my passenger. I feel, at times, it would be rude to mute the radio (audio book) or interject at a specific point in the conversation and talk to the computer etc.
just because it’s not for me doesn’t mean it’s not for others. I’m glad the feature is useful for you and them. I can respect that. But I feel like some of the posts are not considering that, that is not the answer for everyone in all cases.
TexasTezla
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You are right. There is no one answer for all. You have your solutions and I have mine. I would however wonder just how many times you would need to interject? I'm not talking to my car all the time. Maybe once or twice a trip, if at all!
TexasTezla
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Thanks for clearing up any doubt I had...which I didn't! I think younger people are less intimidated or self conscious about using voice commands I guess. I imagine Tesla will chop and change until they feel they have got the UI right. Perhaps this time they haven't if so many don't like it? I don't know the answer to that as I like the new UI. But seriously, it is another button press (if you prefer button pressing). Some comments here make it sound like their car is now a death trap! LOLI refuse to talk to my car. just should not be needed. yes, I'm an older guy, but I'm also pretty tech-aware and I still reject the whole voice thing.
its lazy, it needs a network, it does not work well enough for accents or noise or even facemasks (its post 2020, right?)
touch screens are lazy, too, for the designers. instead of committing to a button and display layout, they allow themselves the 'right' to change look/feel as they wish, even on just a whim. there's a huge down side to that way of designing products.
I'm sitting here adjusting my power designs precision power supply made in the 1960's, with metal concentric dials that set the voltage 'directly' via dial-in. the designers thought about where to put the dials and small meter display, where the amps/volts switch should be, how to short outputs so you can set current limit, the fact that there's a flashing light to show you that, all these things were thought about for months (maybe longer) and then they settled, they made thousands of them and people used them. I have 4 of them at home that I bought used (company had a good 50 year run, give or take) and you know what - the interface is the same now as was designed in the 60's. and power supplies are just the same now as they were back then.
each time I get a chance to use real test gear, I frown when I go back to modern crap. and cars that have this goofiness are crap ui's when put next to really well thought out and stable (for years) designs.
I get that there is some variability and so you can allocate some space on the screen for those come-and-go things. but others, they are not going anywhere (wipers, heaters, volume, etc). no need to keep remapping where they live.
just STOOPID.
again, goml. I'm tired of these childish ways of changing ui's just for no damned reason at all.
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israndy
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Wow, what a cogent, well presented argument, I'm convinced
TexasTezla
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Yes it seems something happened to the tire pressure voice control. It used to work...however, its not something I really monitor as I drive...I'll leave that to the TPMS sensors to tell me. If I want to check then it is FAR easier to click 2 screen buttons than it ever was on my previous cars! I'm guessing not many people are checking on tire pressures as they drive around? Also what 'many buttons' are gone that don't have voice control??
_Redshift_
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It did not deserve anything more. Your whole post lacked any specifics, a lot of generalization, and an unnecessary, inflammatory comment at the end.
Let me drill down to my objection : your post did not mention ONE single way the new UI actually improved things.
Lot of words, but very little substance. And you expect a well presented argument in return? Yeah, sure!
Unless you're dumb (not stupid, dumb), have laryngitis, have to get everyone else in the car to shut up while you say the commend, happen to have cell connectivity at the time, don't have an accent it doesn't underdstand, ...
New to Tesla and to the club. Regarding UI updates, had my car for 2 weeks before it updated so everything I was just learning changed. My question is - how often do they change the UI? Most of the changes just seem like moving things around, little improvement. Is this something I need to be prepared for? Painful.
TexasTezla
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OK so lets look at your list...for all the millions of 'dumb' drivers in their Teslas, you just got to press a button on screen. Always have had to press the button! For those with laryngitis, again press a button...for those who cannot get a word in edgeways due to the incessant screaming of car occupants, the button is your friend. Accents? Well, if you have such a strong accent you aren't understood, the button is your friend...for the remaining 99.9% of Tesla drivers it should all work...good luck!
TexasTezla
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Yes Tesla does change things around a bit but the UI doesn't greatly change. This update however is a bigger UI change which as you can see, lots dont like. I personally love it but apparently nobody is allowed to love it according to the stasi here! LOL
follow.johnny
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I found a workaround voice command for viewing Tire Pressure since it's part of the "Service" tab.
Voice command: Open/Show Service Settings
That is incredibly useful, thank you. Why couldn't Tesla explain how to use its features I wonder.
TexasTezla
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Ha! I was testing Show Service tab and Show Service page...settings all the time! Thanks...another problem solved! It actually works for pretty much every setting screen under Controls. Nice find!I found a workaround voice command for viewing Tire Pressure since it's part of the "Service" tab.
Voice command: Open/Show Service Settings
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TexasTezla
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Because they have an army of people quite willing to go over every detail for them...Do Tesla do TV advertising or do you see billboards for Tesla? Nope!
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