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In some states having your fog lights on when it's not foggy is a ticket-able offense.Why keep fog lights on if you don't need them? Is there an advantage?
Guys, I’m covering only 88 fps (60mph) going into fog. To turn on fog lights in my:
1964 Ford Thunderbird - doesn’t exist, don’t bother.
2012 Nissan LEAF - press fog lights button, where muscle memory has made doing so automatic, quick, and can be done blindly.
2018 Model 3 first occurrence - tap headlight icon on driving animation. Nope, that’s not it. Flip left stalk forward and aft looking at touchscreen hoping for an icon that could represent fog light control. Fail. Start to panic/anger/swear, heavy on the swearing. Pull over to the shoulder (thankfully there is one), stop the car, tap car icon, look for and find lights option hoping that’s where the fog lights control is, tap fog lights, rejoice that you’ve found the damn thing, resume trip, plan for the double martini at destination where normally a single would suffice.
2018 Model 3 after drive above but before double martini - in your garage, find and set fog lights to always come on and forget about it hoping the next update doesn’t change it again.
Yeah, V10, V11, Vwhatever, sooo much easier. Robotaxi goal notwithstanding, I still have to drive the car today. Can we make it less of a gaming and entertainment console and more of an albeit amazing car?
In some states having your fog lights on when it's not foggy is a ticket-able offense.
You don’t have to turn them on when you need them because they’re already on.Why keep fog lights on if you don't need them? Is there an advantage?
Louisiana comes immediately to mind.Despite all the hype, I think robotaxis are a long ways off, if they are ever legal. They may be legalized in certain areas, but I don't see legislatures going whole hog and allowing vehicles too drive themselves unsupervised for many years.
What states? I know many states have strict laws about the use of light bars, but I haven't seen anything that limits the use of the type of fog lights standard on production cars that are out there.
is this a joke comment? it would accomplish turning off the HVAC. i don't need it. i just want my seat warm, not air blowing in my face, or anywhere else for that matter.You didn't have to turn off the HVAC. What would that accomplish? Maybe you were doing that to close the panel, but you could close the panel by swiping it down.
Louisiana comes immediately to mind.
This is strange, but you have the Tesla team posting on the forum now about being able to make your own light show and you want the UI and texting fixed?Yes, this! Both our Teslas have upcoming appointments for unrelated things. I made sure to add items to each complaining about the new UI and as ALWAYS, I complained about the fact that we still cant have text messaging working properly on Android phones in a Tesla.
Not a joke. You said you needed to "turn off HVAC" to enable rear seat heaters. It's clear now that you meant "turn on HVAC".is this a joke comment? it would accomplish turning off the HVAC. i don't need it. i just want my seat warm, not air blowing in my face, or anywhere else for that matter.
Let me sure I understand this correctly. Because of bone-headed design decision I have to keep the fog lights on all the time (anything about efficiency?) and then fight a ticket I may get? Vs. just having a good UI design for my $100k+ car.The cops may be misinterpreting the law, but I looked up the laws for Louisiana.
This says fog lamps must meet the requirements of 32:321
2011 Louisiana Laws :: Revised Statutes :: TITLE 32 — Motor vehicles and traffic regulation :: RS 32:317 — Spotlights and auxiliary lamps
and 32:321 basically just says the lights can't blind anybody (like high beams on when there is other traffic)
2011 Louisiana Laws :: Revised Statutes :: TITLE 32 — Motor vehicles and traffic regulation :: RS 32:321 — Multiple beam road lighting equipment
There is also this:
Louisiana Revised Statutes Tit. 32, § 322 | FindLaw
It's only a $25 ticket so probably nobody bothers to fight it if they get a ticket. It wouldn't be the first time I have heard to the cops misapplying the law. My partner is a lawyer and I have heard these sorts of stories about Washington too. Though the statute for car lighting in Washington is much simpler than Louisiana. It basically boils down to: you can't blind other drivers and you can't have lighting that makes your car resemble a police car's lights.
A great question, but a trend that seems super common in the modern software landscape (Android 11 -> Android 12 being a great (subjective) recent example). But at least my life does not depend on my phone clock being ugly. Regarding reverting, Tesla does not allow it. The only time I have EVER heard of them doing it is if a new firmware caused a significant hardware issue (like something essential not working at all).Why change something good into something shitty? If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Is there a way to revert back to the previous software??
U wot m8?
Keep all lights on whenever required, no reason to turn fogs on and off, it's led lights you won't burn them out or drain your battery
Um we turn them on. When it’s foggy?People turn off their fog lights in the eu? Serious question. We don't commonly do that in the USA.
Um we turn them on. When it’s foggy?
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