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V11 - what’s your verdict?
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Car updated Friday, but hadn't been used since, I read the posts today and with a bit of trepidation went for a look.
The speedo location is fine, the icons around it are better, the headlights/high beam is much clearer. (I've never had a car where I didn't notice I had full beam on, but it's happened a few times with this one)
Wipers are still 2 clicks away, I guess their continuity won't allow it but when pushing the car icon they should make the wipers appear bottom right same as when u press the button on the stalk. Ultimately for me the wipers are a poor experience in the northern uk weather I drive in, was better in BMW's 20 years ago.
fog lights seem highly unobtainable, I had a 90 min drive last week and turned them on/off circa 10 times due to patchy fog. (I'm more concerned about the rears)
the app setup I think is better, but needs expanded to allow people to pin some of the settings screens?
sentry mode gets better, I generally like the auto on idea unless at home, it's super frustrating the amount of times I park away from cars and return to find some old banger parked in space next to me.
Climate overall is probably better, hopefully the auto heated seat function works properly, steering wheel heater access is improved.
biggest hassle for me is when entering a new destination it's very hard to see the destination % charge, you now scroll all the way to the bottom (which can often be 10 swipes at least for me)
We went out for a drive and I let the wife get in the car while I locked up, when I got in the car she was seriously non plused as the profile setting had "vanished" I then explained they'd done an update and shoved it into a sub menu and she was even less impressed.
what's the deal with the "light show", does this mean it has advanced head lights that just dip the area in front where a car is?
All in all I think it's "ok", but I like the latest version of everything, for the average user like my wife this could really turn people off from the brand
The speedo location is fine, the icons around it are better, the headlights/high beam is much clearer. (I've never had a car where I didn't notice I had full beam on, but it's happened a few times with this one)
Wipers are still 2 clicks away, I guess their continuity won't allow it but when pushing the car icon they should make the wipers appear bottom right same as when u press the button on the stalk. Ultimately for me the wipers are a poor experience in the northern uk weather I drive in, was better in BMW's 20 years ago.
fog lights seem highly unobtainable, I had a 90 min drive last week and turned them on/off circa 10 times due to patchy fog. (I'm more concerned about the rears)
the app setup I think is better, but needs expanded to allow people to pin some of the settings screens?
sentry mode gets better, I generally like the auto on idea unless at home, it's super frustrating the amount of times I park away from cars and return to find some old banger parked in space next to me.
Climate overall is probably better, hopefully the auto heated seat function works properly, steering wheel heater access is improved.
biggest hassle for me is when entering a new destination it's very hard to see the destination % charge, you now scroll all the way to the bottom (which can often be 10 swipes at least for me)
We went out for a drive and I let the wife get in the car while I locked up, when I got in the car she was seriously non plused as the profile setting had "vanished" I then explained they'd done an update and shoved it into a sub menu and she was even less impressed.
what's the deal with the "light show", does this mean it has advanced head lights that just dip the area in front where a car is?
All in all I think it's "ok", but I like the latest version of everything, for the average user like my wife this could really turn people off from the brand
At the time of writing this, 16.9% 'love it' and 40.3% think it is 'overall ok'.
I see that as a roughly 60% approval rating.
What am I missing?.... Or did you miss those that 'love it'?
Mr H
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Jason71
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I googled it and Elon is 50. Hopefully that means the fonts and icons will start getting larger again soon.
The total number of people is far from the number of people that have gotten this update. There's not even 1% that have replied to this post and never will be.
I'm not a statistician, but my interpretation of the poll options is that those selecting the first two ('love it' and 'overall ok') were indicating that on ballance they see it it as an improvement.
All those thinking that on ballance it is a step backwards presumably have selected one of the other two options ('preferred old ui' and 'hate it')?
Perhaps a more simple poll with 'overall improvement' versus 'overall regression' options would have been more illuminating.
interbear
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I agree on all counts.
I’ve driven mine a few times since the “upgrade” and it’s beyond belief that any UI designer thinks that putting more items behind a menu structure that requires more key presses is in any way positive or safe.
I got p***ed off trying to heat the seats before heading off, then needed to put fog lights on while on the move (just unsafe). The music apps all separated makes no sense to me. And I had to search to find the sentry icon which used to be at the top of the screen. Now it’s also buried in menus. On returning home I looked for the charging icon to set up the charge schedule, that seemed to have moved too.
All round, I think it’s hopeless. The Tesla software team needs to think less about pointless games (I couldn’t give a damn about Sonic the bloody Hedgehog and the like) and more about how to make the Tesla car / driving UI a simple, safer and more positive experience.
I’ve loved my 2 years of Model 3 ownership and still love the driving experience itself but would I now look at alternatives? Definitely.
Dasher
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I too have loved more than two years of Model 3 driving, so the user interface changes will take some getting used to. On the whole, I find the organisation sensible, and capable of evolution. On the other hand, I think that the drive for minimalisation of controls is over done, since there is plenty of space on the screen, even with the acres of unnecessary white space. I had no problem with icons for LTE and wifi on the screen, and found them both useful; the former is particularly valuable when using voice control. I also found the dashcam and sentry mode icons usefully visible, and used the dashcom one several times while driving. Making it more difficult to use (possibly when in a dangerous situation) seems completely unnecessary. Checking that sentry mode is on by glancing in the window was comforting.
I am disappointed that there seems to be even less space for the title of a piece of music. It seems as if it would be easy to provide much more of the title, and roll it if necessary. I miss the bar showing how much time is left for the track. I continue to hope that one day Tesla will improve the map, with some colour to more easily distinguish all the grey lines!
I hope that Tesla will continue to evolve the interface, and take note of the many views expressed here and elsewhere.
I am disappointed that there seems to be even less space for the title of a piece of music. It seems as if it would be easy to provide much more of the title, and roll it if necessary. I miss the bar showing how much time is left for the track. I continue to hope that one day Tesla will improve the map, with some colour to more easily distinguish all the grey lines!
I hope that Tesla will continue to evolve the interface, and take note of the many views expressed here and elsewhere.
RNHurt
2020 MY, White, Black
Just a note; the bar is still there, it's just really small and moved to the bottom of the music player window.
This is my biggest gripe to be honest (which isn't bad I guess). Hit some fog Boxing day night and to have to hit the car, then lights and then fog lights seems a problem to me. Why not just have them grey on the screen under the headlight icon such that you could switch them on direct from the touch screen. The rest of the update I think is pretty good though.
Yachtsman
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If you flick the wiper stalk towards or away from you it brings up the headlights
panel at the bottom of the visualisation, including both foglights, then touch which you need.
Similarlarly, if you press the single wipe button on the end of the stalk the wiper panel appears at the bottom of the visualisation.
Personally one of the worst changes is the trip and tyre pressure panels that now cover most of the map rather than being the same size as the blind spot panel & being located in the same place.
Well i may have to eat my words - I did 200 miles today and actually found the new UI pretty OK to use on the move. I found the drivers pane to be less cluttered and in my opinion easier to read at a glance. I still would like the current trip card to be present.
Forgot to add, the wife liked the camera indicator screens, but I found them pretty pointless
Forgot to add, the wife liked the camera indicator screens, but I found them pretty pointless
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Jason71
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Some stuff I like some I don't. the only thing that really bothers me so far is the lack of trip meter / average energy usage.
its not like there is a shortage of space for it. Why do they think this is not a valid thing for a driver to want to know?
its not like there is a shortage of space for it. Why do they think this is not a valid thing for a driver to want to know?
RNHurt
2020 MY, White, Black
One thing I really like is the increased contrast for most of the text / controls. The previous interface was really bad at having dark gray text on light gray backgrounds. That was hard (for me) to see regardless of the font size. The new, more contrasty, pallet is much better, IMHO.
RNHurt
2020 MY, White, Black
Another positive thing I just discovered is that it's now possible to scrub forwards and backwards through a song. I was playing something on Spotify and accidentally hit the play bar at the bottom of the audio window and the song jumped back to that point. I found out that you can touch any point on the play bar to advance the song to that point. Nice!
Tried a wee 5 mile trip last night just to see how the UI was for driving. I think overall it's a nice clean up of the front end. I like the -idea- of press a (physical) thing to bring up a card of relevent settings, although it will hopefully get a few tweaks over time. This works for lights, wipers and basic heating controls, and I think will come to make a fair amount of sense once we are used to it.
Profile, WiFi and BT are all 1 extra click away at the top of the main settings page, which again seems ok since you shouldn't need these very often.
Extra grey on grey map is pretty meh, but I can live. Hopefully local roads will get a contrast boost soon.
What I am disappointed with is the damn music player. Totally pointless change that takes you backwards, and completely violates many design principles.
Profile, WiFi and BT are all 1 extra click away at the top of the main settings page, which again seems ok since you shouldn't need these very often.
Extra grey on grey map is pretty meh, but I can live. Hopefully local roads will get a contrast boost soon.
What I am disappointed with is the damn music player. Totally pointless change that takes you backwards, and completely violates many design principles.
- Different apps for different sources is just dumb from a stereo pov, but maybe they are thinking like a phone?
- I'd like to hide the 70% of sources I don't use, that was a good feature.
- In 2 changes of music I hit the song progress bar twice trying to minimise the full pane app.
- Tap the album to bring full screen app up, tap a different icon to peek and see favourites etc? That designer should be shot.
- Almost never remembers that I like USB as input.
- Defaults to listing USB charger content as 10k 'songs'.
- Sorting as albums should really give an artwork list, not text. Makes it really concentration consuming to select next album.
- Doesn't auto play next album, leaving you in silence untill you can spare the concentration to choose the next one, as above. Last car progressed through folder in alphabetical order, ,which was ok. The one before (going back to a 97 Celica now) could randomise albums.
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