Yep, the biggest obstacle for Tesla right now is the door handle design (too confusing.)
I expect we’ll see the Robotaxi model next week with automatic doors.
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I expect we’ll see the Robotaxi model next week with automatic doors.
EVNow
Well-Known Member
Nothing positive about Tesla is new - nothing negative about Waymo is new
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
Nothing positive about Tesla is new - nothing negative about Waymo is new
Not at all. You really need to get over this "everybody is bias against Tesla" mindset.
And there is nothing negative about the Waymo post: they cover the high density Uber areas now with employee-only rides and they are slowly expanding their public rides to cover more of SF as part of their roll out strategy and soon it will cover the high density Uber areas as well. But because of your bias, you tried to spin it as a negative.
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
FYI, per Dolgov's update about adding support for rain, we do see Waymo doing driverless now in the rain.
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
It's happening!!!! Waymo is now doing driverless testing in LA!!
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
Anyone notice what's happening at 7 seconds?
Certainly an interesting choice of material for a promotional clip.
Edit: That's heading North on South Grand Ave at Disney Concert Hall? If so, there's a construction site to the left of the vehicle occupying the curb lanes. Moving around it in the unclaimed central portion of the road may have been reasonable (trucks doing deliveries, etc.). Still a terrible clip for promotional material.
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The car is driving in an island (two sets of double yellow lines that is not to be crossed). I've gotten tickets for even slightly crossing over those.
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
it is a very quick clip. We don't know the context. Presumably, the Waymo needed to cross the double yellow lines for a legit reason.
Maybe they _want_ to create a stir and then reveal that it's handling a construction zone.
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
Waymo releases safety data on 1M driverless miles:
blog.waymo.com
Summary:
Brad Templeton's analysis in Forbes:
www.forbes.com
First Million Rider-Only Miles: How the Waymo Driver is Improving Road Safety
Waymo has achieved many global industry firsts. Each time we delight our riders and deliver on our mission safely, we are proudest. In January, we accomplished another first: we exceeded one million miles on public roads with no human behind the wheel. To put this into perspective, this equates...
blog.waymo.com
Summary:
- 18 minor and 2 major contact events in one million miles of operation
- Other vehicle at fault in all vehicle to vehicle contacts. There were 4 contacts with physical objects, 3 of which caused no known damage
- No reported injuries, no contacts at intersections, no contacts with vulnerable road users
- All events were of a class unlikely to result in a severe crash or fatality, and the serious ones were front-to-rear which only account for 19% of serious crashes and 6% of fatalities in data on the general population.
- In 55% of events, the Waymo vehicle was stopped and hit by somebody else
Brad Templeton's analysis in Forbes:
Waymo And Cruise have Both Hit 1M Miles With No Driver, But Waymo Publishes Detailed Safety Data
Waymo has released impressive detailed safety data on their first million miles of operation with no safety driver. Cruise also just hit 1M miles but has less data to offer.
www.forbes.com
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From an article on SlashGear:
Interestingly Waymo says that 55% of all collisions were caused by another driver hitting a Waymo vehicle that wasn't moving. Because all the computer code in the world and thousands of hours developing driving algorithms can't account for good old fashioned human error. Waymo also notes that no incidents happened within an intersection, which is typically the place of accidents where a human is driving.
Data collected during the tests also revealed that it was generally safer for its vehicles to travel between 10 p.m. and 6 a.m., as there are general fewer vehicles around at night and substantially fewer pedestrians.
One million miles with only a few actual incidents is nothing to sneeze at, and the data will undoubtedly prove to be vital in future developments of the technology. If only there was a way for the car to account for other people's less-than-stellar driving records.
The problem is the media and the thirsty readers looking for scandals. Headlines with "Waymo involved in yet another accident", even though Waymo was not at fault, paints a poor picture for the public, who may turn sour on AVs sharing their roads.
www.slashgear.com
Interestingly Waymo says that 55% of all collisions were caused by another driver hitting a Waymo vehicle that wasn't moving. Because all the computer code in the world and thousands of hours developing driving algorithms can't account for good old fashioned human error. Waymo also notes that no incidents happened within an intersection, which is typically the place of accidents where a human is driving.
Data collected during the tests also revealed that it was generally safer for its vehicles to travel between 10 p.m. and 6 a.m., as there are general fewer vehicles around at night and substantially fewer pedestrians.
One million miles with only a few actual incidents is nothing to sneeze at, and the data will undoubtedly prove to be vital in future developments of the technology. If only there was a way for the car to account for other people's less-than-stellar driving records.
The problem is the media and the thirsty readers looking for scandals. Headlines with "Waymo involved in yet another accident", even though Waymo was not at fault, paints a poor picture for the public, who may turn sour on AVs sharing their roads.
After 1 Million Miles, Waymo's Autonomous Cars Might've Found The True Road Danger - SlashGear
Upon reaching a major milestone for autonomous driving, Waymo has published intriguing statistics collected from the many road tests it's taken since 2016.
www.slashgear.com
Doggydogworld
Active Member
Waymo is genetically incapable of creating a stir
Waymo hit a million a few weeks before Cruise, but Cruise is piling up miles faster.
They may have 1/100th as many accidents but the jury awards will be 1000x higher.
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
I love that many of the sensors have little wipers for them. I'm reminded of my old Chevy Bolt that had a tiny wiper fluid dispenser over the rear camera, so when I engaged the rear wipers, it would wash off the camera too.
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
If time and time again, the fault is the bad human driver that was not paying attention or driving recklessly, I think/hope that people may realize that AVs are not the problem, human drivers are. So the public could shift to favor AVs more.
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