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It is disingenuous to use an intentionally derogatory and hostile term like "treehugger" without giving a definition of treehugger. I guess you can call me a treehugger because I walk several miles a day, I ride a bicycle when appropriate, I am adamantly opposed to artificial turf, I plant lots of drought tolerant green stuff around my house, I rarely use the dish washer and wash by hand, I partially power my PHEV with Solar City roof panels while patiently waiting for my TM3, and made a lifelong professional career in a treehugger profession. So yeah, I'm proud to be an "extreme" treehugger. No, I don't believe that I am saving the earth, but I do believe I am attempting to be part of the solution rather than part of the problem. Changing attitudes and an entire culture is incremental not an immediate absolute. To call people an extreme anything when compared to the So Called President is insulting!I am neither a Trump or a treehugger (regarding the environment - both extremes).
I don’t think I am helping to save the earth.
Yea, it is a lot better alternative to ICE,.
Does 'the Climate Change Denialist and Pro-Coal President' meet your approval ?"Tree huggers" calling Trump the "So Called President " is disingenuous
@FlyF4 your post is getting some pushback because the vast majority of TMC members understand that there are carbon emissions involved in making a car, EV or ICE, in fact in manufacturing anything. No news there. That said, a rational analysis shows that over the lifetime of the vehicle, an EV creates far less carbon emissions compared to an ICE even if the EV is powered by electricity produced from burning coal. If you power the EV with electricity produced by burning natural gas, carbon emissions drop considerably. If you power the EV with sustainable energy the carbon emissions are inconsequential. And of course that is the future we want to transition to, and many of us are already there. I'm sure you agree.Geez folks. Missing the point. I do encourage people to move to EV. But I am not going to mislead them by doing it. I'm not trying to compare an EV to an ICE and certainly not saying an ICE is without similar issues. Simply trying to say that if EV owners think the car is a clean manufactured car and continues to be clean (ACROSS THE BOARD), then it is a bad assumption.
Obviously. And very few TMC members believe that is the case.Anyone who thinks a Tesla was made w/o an impact to the environment is ignorant of reality.
This is not correct, but I very much agree with the remainder of your post.EV creates far less carbon emissions compared to an ICE even if the EV is powered by electricity produced from burning coal.
The people who need to be educated are the gas guzzlers who think that global warming is a myth and nothing bad is going to happen because their truck/car spews all those gases. Let's spend our energy in educating them instead.
"Tree huggers" calling Trump the "So Called President " is disingenuous and insulting. So you just knocked K-MTG and then did it yourself. Sorry, truth.
Anyone who thinks a Tesla was made w/o an impact to the environment is ignorant of reality.
That's a good point and true. Add to that so many EV buyers either already had solar or are looking into getting it.I heard on Science Friday that the dirtiest day in the life of an EV is the day it was born.