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Pretty sure the 4D1 will outperform a 990Has anyone done any acceleration or efficiency testing of the 4d1 equipped cars as compared to 990/3d1? Any difference or is it software limited to perform the same as the older motor?
Correct me if in wrong but isn't the 4D1 the updated 3D1? Meaning they're both performance motors and likely to perform the same?Pretty sure the 4D1 will outperform a 990
The 3D1 in a Performance Y against a stock and Ghosted 4D1 race would be interesting.
Not an assumption I would make.Correct me if in wrong but isn't the 4D1 the updated 3D1? Meaning they're both performance motors and likely to perform the same?
I guess so but wouldn't the performance parameters be updated on the website? My guess is this is a cheaper motor to manufacturer due to less rare earth metals and the hair pins while providing similar performance. Probably use software to match them to each other to minimize differences as the primary concern is probably cost reduction rather than improvements for customersNot an assumption I would make.
It’s a new model number, so the questions is why? I mean, if nothing changed, then there’d be no reason to change the model number.
Does it perform the same with different materials? Does it perform better with more power output? Maybe it’s more efficient?
Based on other posts and googling around, the consensus is that it uses hairpin copper inserts, instead of wire windings. There’s a possibility it uses less rare earth elements. What does it do to performance/efficiency?
Tesla hasn’t officially (or even unofficially?) said anything about the “4d1” motor specifically. Cory (from “Munro Live”) saw something during investor’s day that could be the 4d1. There were also slides and a presentation that day and they mention “current” motor using less rare earth elements, but it may or may not be the 4d1.
As for performance parameters… consider they use 3d1s/4d1s in the long range, while only listing the one spec for it.I guess so but wouldn't the performance parameters be updated on the website? My guess is this is a cheaper motor to manufacturer due to less rare earth metals and the hair pins while providing similar performance. Probably use software to match them to each other to minimize differences as the primary concern is probably cost reduction rather than improvements for customers
Austin MY don't come with Matrix headlights and only MY AWD is made in TexasSo are all Austin Builds coming with 4D1? Or are we still unsure since we can't confirm with the 8th digit anymore?
My wish list for my future MYAWD
- Matrix Headlights
- 4D1 Motor for efficiency
- Fresh baby unicorn horn in the center console
One of those is a definite guarantee...
Yep. like i said, only one of those options are guaranteedAustin MY don't come with Matrix headlights and only MY AWD is made in Texas
3D1 is the old performance motor. The new performance motor is 4D1. As to the actual advantages of each for a customer? Who knows. Seems to me like Tesla software limits both motors either way and the advantage is for Tesla itself since 4D1 is a cheaper motor to produce due to less rare earth metals and hairpin stators.Could someone kindly summarize the different motors (point of main discussion on this thread I believe). Is it ONLY 3D1 (Fremont) vs 4D1 (Austin MY LR) ? I see some other numbers also mentioned in reference to motors so kind of lost there. There’s also 3D5, hairpin (same as 3D1)?!
I guess if I had to narrow it down I’m more interested in LR (non performance models/motors) factory version.
Is 4D1 better? (subjective, but I believe not all that common to establish yet?)
Majority of non performance Tesla being sold today in US would be 3D1 (and esp 7 seaters)?
Thanks to all the wonderful comments/discussion to even be aware of these things!
Currently Austin builds come with Door panels but no matrix headlightsJust received VIN 7SAYGDEE9PA1XXXXX. 2023 MYLR.
Austin build, standard motor.
So, can someone clarify whether I get the following:
Matrix headlights
Alcantara door panels
How do you know it's a standard motor not the performance motor without taking delivery of the vehicle?Just received VIN 7SAYGDEE9PA1XXXXX. 2023 MYLR.
Austin build, standard motor.
You won't know what motor you have until you take a looksie yourself.Just received VIN 7SAYGDEE9PA1XXXXX. 2023 MYLR.
Austin build, standard motor.
So, can someone clarify whether I get the following:
Matrix headlights
Alcantara door panels
I think something was lost in translation.Has anyone done any acceleration or efficiency testing of the 4d1 equipped cars as compared to 990/3d1? Any difference or is it software limited to perform the same as the older motor?