If they announce it they'll tank orders until it's in production. Hopefully they'll do like some have been speculating and announce it concurrent with cutting it into production.
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What would you "pay" for the HW4.0 suite?
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If they announce it they'll tank orders until it's in production. Hopefully they'll do like some have been speculating and announce it concurrent with cutting it into production.
My EDD is 3/12 - 3/31. I'm hoping that March production MYs include HW4 for the additional safety features. Keeping my fingers crossed.it maybe available soon based on this statement. again we can't be sure but it does give hope that cars built after march 1st would include hw4. then again, the cost should also include losing the $3750 credit since everyone is expecting treasury to release the notice in march at which point it will trigger the applicability of those requirements.
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at $2250 yeah it would probably worth it but at $6,000+ after possible price hikes, now its a different ball game. my edd is 3/3 - 3/31 so i'm gonna wait and see what happens.
Does your car have the USS? Wondering if that influences the phantom braking issue on AP at all.
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No, USS is only involved with low speed and close distance. Camera are only doing high speed and far distance.
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If you intend to buy FSD now or in the future, you will want HW4. Many of us believe Tesla will never pull it off on HW3, and end up having to refund a lot of money as they have said an upgrade from HW3 to HW4 is not going to be available. Now, I'm not sure if and when they will pull it off on HW4 but it's a lot more likely they can do that, than make it work on HW3. Of course they say it will work on HW3 just be a bit better on HW4 but they don't actually know. They also said it would work on HW2.5.
If you are not concerned about FSD, you will save that $2K with HW3. However, again, if they actually pull off FSD, then the resale value of HW4 should greatly exceed that of HW3. If they don't pull it off - still a distinct risk -- you will do better with HW3. It's also possible HW4 cars can be upgraded to HW5 -- HW3 cars almost certainly won't.
If you are not concerned about FSD, you will save that $2K with HW3. However, again, if they actually pull off FSD, then the resale value of HW4 should greatly exceed that of HW3. If they don't pull it off - still a distinct risk -- you will do better with HW3. It's also possible HW4 cars can be upgraded to HW5 -- HW3 cars almost certainly won't.
I would pay nothing.
I'm not a potential customer for FSD, without which HW4 has no real value.
there's no info that radar gets added back to all models, or when.
Could be just MS and MX, then CT later when it goes into production.
There's exactly zero info on HW4 in the M3 MY
Yes I know but if the HD radar is part of the HW4 suite then it will be included on all vehicles. Never said that there was any info on HW4 for the MY or M3. Its no secret that their FCC exclusion period is open and there are already pictures of the HD radar that is floating on twitter. If it is not part of HW4 then the HD radar should have been included in recent builds in early to mid February. The question isn't whether all models will receive the HD radar but just a matter of when.
radar will be part of HW4 but not necessarily for all vehicles.
let's allow Tesla to tell us themselves.
All the latest leaks from Killowatts and Teslascope have been about the computer and cameras too. We've seen the radar now in the FCC docs, but not gotten much else. Honestly, Tesla not provide much info on Investor Day. They can't afford to torpedo current 3/Y sales...after all, they are paying fot everything else Tesla is doing!
The wrong approach for Tesla would be to say after X date in the future, the MY will be HW4 included. If they just said as of today or like say march 2nd on investor day on Mar 1 that HW4 is in new teslas then it wouldn't torpedo sales. However if they announce like say May 1st or June 1st or something like that it would torpedo sales.
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