dhrivnak
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You should not be discharging that low on a routine basis. Tesla strongly recommends you plug it in EVERY night.Rated miles.
I rarely charge to 100% and typically start charging between 5 and 20 miles remaining.
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You should not be discharging that low on a routine basis. Tesla strongly recommends you plug it in EVERY night.Rated miles.
I rarely charge to 100% and typically start charging between 5 and 20 miles remaining.
Not fully true as there is swelling and shrinkage at both the high and low ends. And that change in cathode size does affect the longevity of the battery.Not true. Only if you go low enough to reverse the polarity of some of the cells in a string. It's perfectly safe to run a Li-Ion battery down to zero as long as it's not exposed to negative polarity.
Not fully true as there is swelling and shrinkage at both the high and low ends. And that change in cathode size does affect the longevity of the battery.
Again my testing does not support that. It is the changes from full or almost full to empty. If you stay between 70 and 90% most all the time the battery will last virtually forever. The more you can stay from the edges the better.It's the change in SOC that causes fracturing from swelling and shrinkage which is why 10 cycles over 20% of the range is better than 5 cycles over 40% of the range. I have hobby related Li-Ion batteries that I've store at 0% in the refrigerator for over a decade that still still test out at 97% of original capacity on my IMAX B6.
Storing a battery 100% is really bad which is a totally different thing.
Funny - every Tesla engineer I spoke with has a different approach to the "right" way to charge. One senior engineer told me to take it down to single digits frequently and to rarely charge it all the way up. Another told me to always keep it between 20 and 80% charged. They have no idea what the right way is.You do know that’s not the recommended procedure for charging, right?
Didn’t you get this card with your 2013 Model S? I did.
A connected Model S is a happy Model S
Or did you RTFM?
Again my testing does not support that. It is the changes from full or almost full to empty. If you stay between 70 and 90% most all the time the battery will last virtually forever. The more you can stay from the edges the better.
Really - that's great intel! How do you know that? I haven't seen that written anywhere.Why do you think this merits a class action? Outright bold faced lying that the car your selling has 691 hp when it really only has 463 is the kind of issue that merits a class action.
Once you're down 30%, Tesla will replace your battery since you're in California.
Funny - every Tesla engineer I spoke with has a different approach to the "right" way to charge. One senior engineer told me to take it down to single digits frequently and to rarely charge it all the way up. Another told me to always keep it between 20 and 80% charged. They have no idea what the right way is.Don't do that. No one does that. That makes no sense. That's the cause of your problem.
Change thread to "Who wants in on lessons to RTFM?"
Elaborate on the underlined?Once you're down 30%, Tesla will replace your battery since you're in California.
I doubt these are the battery engineers you're referring to. Just because someone works for Tesla as a software engineer, or mechanical engineer, or whatever doesn't mean he knows any more about the battery than the next person. If you didn't follow the recommendation in the owners manual about NOT waiting until the charge is low to plug in, I don't see how you can complain about your battery. Those of us early 60 owners who have commented here over the past year and who have followed the owners manual are generally reporting a 100% charge is giving 197-199 miles at about five years, which fits with my experience.Funny - every Tesla engineer I spoke with has a different approach to the "right" way to charge. One senior engineer told me to take it down to single digits frequently and to rarely charge it all the way up. Another told me to always keep it between 20 and 80% charged. They have no idea what the right way is.
Funny - every Tesla engineer I spoke with has a different approach to the "right" way to charge. One senior engineer told me to take it down to single digits frequently and to rarely charge it all the way up. Another told me to always keep it between 20 and 80% charged. They have no idea what the right way is.
Once again, RATED RANGE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DRIVING STYLE.I noticed from the OP's pic that his whats per mile is pretty high at 345--that's more like a Model X or a "P" Model S kind of usage. I wander how aggressive the OP drives, which could pretty much explain the low range. I am in CO and my overall average is around 265 whats/mile, so if I recalculate: 165. mi range x 345 / 265 (my average) = 214 mile range should be possible if the OP had my 265 wh/mi average. My range mode has always been ON, but we have mountains and real winters here.
It is rated range based on 345whats per mile in his case, right? if not, which wh/mi number does it take into account when calculating rated range? What if the OP always drives aggressively and sets the AC to 70 degrees with windows open?
Rated range is rated range. Based on EPA.It is rated range based on 345whats per mile in his case, right? if not, which wh/mi number does it take into account when calculating rated range? What if the OP always drives aggressively and sets the AC to 70 degrees with windows open?