Will legacy ever see V12?

[brykster]

New to this forum. I was totally disheartened when I found out that the update I received for my 2020S just a few weeks ago (2024.2.7) meant I could not get FSD V12. Very disappointing. I've heard speculation that this was done because my vehicle doesn't have an internal camera and Tesla is concerned about their ability to monitor drivers. Is there any further information on this? I find FSD 11 very erratic but I'm on no position to buy a new car. As usual, Tesla is saying nothing on the matter.

 

[Daveb25]

Just got it on our 2016.5 p100d model s. Our raven model x is in service (over 300 miles from home!) with a fried battery

 

[BigTonyTones]

Update just hit my car. I have a 2016 model s refresh. Ap3 and they updated my cameras.

 

[gaswalla]

Just got it on my unicorn 2016.8 Model X.. yipee

 

[bimmer88]

Getting it right now on my 2020 ms lr+

 

[Real_Chameleon]

Just got it on my unicorn 2017 Model X with upgraded MCU1 —> MCU2 and cameras. Now just wondering if they will send it out for my 2016 Model S unicorn that still has MCU1….

 

[vapor trail]

Currently installing on my 2019 Raven!

Faith in Tesla (a bit) restored!

 

[bimmer88]

Haven’t had a chance to test it yet but I wonder how the nag frequency is on our legacy cars with no nanny cam. I was seeing in the YouTube videos that it was nagging a lot less for those with cameras.

 

[sovrin]

Just downloaded V12 on 2018 Model S post March, Oct build MCU2 factory.

 

[SO16]

I have a 2017 MS with FSD license since 2019 and MCU2 and I’m not concerned one bit about getting v12. It’ll happen. Just might take a bit more time.

Just got the update. Installing now. You mean all the “sky is falling” posts about how legacy won’t get this update turned out to be false? Shocked I say.

 

[g1000x]

Just got it too. Guess it’s time to leave this thread and join the v12 thread on the autopilot / ai page. See ya guys! Hope you all get it soon.

 

[markn455]

I got it this morning! The problem is, the update installed failed. I had a message on the screen saying it failed and I have to wait until the next update. The version they were installing was 2024.3.15 with FSD 12.3.4. Has anyone had a failed update install? As far as I know, this is the first time it has ever happed to my car.

 

[g1000x]

Guess I’m not leaving this thread just yet lol. Haven’t tried installing yet, now I’m worried about it.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1778392026490536289

 

[brkaus]

Just got the update. Installing now. You mean all the “sky is falling” posts about how legacy won’t get this update turned out to be false? Shocked I say.

It’s ok. The software download included an interior camera. /s

 

[gcashiel]

can also confirm i got it last night. also used it for about a 30 mile drive. works just like it should. not perfect but def better than v11

 

[TonikQL]

Haven’t had a chance to test it yet but I wonder how the nag frequency is on our legacy cars with no nanny cam. I was seeing in the YouTube videos that it was nagging a lot less for those with cameras.

Same amount of nags for me. But its fine. Personally I'd rather have nags than a nanny cam.
On a side note, V12 handles rural/small town Ohio significantly better than V11. I'm a very happy camper right now.

 

[g1000x]

Dang mine failed to update too. Failed within 5 mins of pressing install.

 

[brykster]

Whelp, to answer my initial question that started this thread, it appears the answer is yes!!

 

[MN-MS100D]

Got it last night, installed fine this morning. Went out on a 20 mile loop and it is buttery smooth. A bit hard on accel and braking, but otherwise miles better than beta. Going on a 3k mile roadtrip next week, so very timely! I hope phantom braking on freeways is a thing of the past.

MS Aug 2017 build. AP3 (upgraded)

 

[SO16]

Got it last night, installed fine this morning. Went out on a 20 mile loop and it is buttery smooth. A bit hard on accel and braking, but otherwise miles better than beta. Going on a 3k mile roadtrip next week, so very timely! I hope phantom braking on freeways is a thing of the past.

MS Aug 2017 build. AP3 (upgraded)

Supposedly highway is using the same old stack.

Mine installed this morning fine too. Definitely smoother on city streets than it used to be but it still seems to use brakes more than regen.

 

[dmurphy]

Waiting for my wife to get home so I can push the install on her Classic X ...

This entire thread should be an apology to Tesla at this point. 5 pages of nonsense hand-wringing over nothing.