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    NHTSA opens NEW investigation into fatal AP related crash

    https://stocks.apple.com/AXGl_u0AzSZSkrXchi9WvEw
  2. 2

    Tesla: FSD Beta is an SAE Level 2 driver support feature

    https://electrek.co/2023/02/27/tesla-disappoints-owners-updated-language-around-full-self-driving-beta/
  3. 2

    Autonomous Driving Systems Review

    Discuss amongst yourselves
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    Pomerantz Nor Cal Shareholder Suit (a new one) says FSD a “fraud”

    https://fortune.com/2023/02/28/elon-musk-tesla-lawsuit-fsd-fraud-misleading-investors-zach-kirkhorn-deepak-ahuja/amp/ Wow this sounds so familiar “Elon Musk and Tesla have been hit with another lawsuit claiming they misled the public over controversial self-driving features in order to...
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    Tesla formally halts FSD Rollout

    https://fortune.com/2023/02/27/tesla-halts-fsd-beta-self-driving-technology-pending-nhtsa-recall/
  6. 2

    Industry Experts share how close Elon is to actual autonomous driving

    https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-tesla-full-self-driving-promise-experts-2023-2
  7. 2

    Growing FSD liability could be massive.

    https://seekingalpha.com/article/4580379-tesla-growing-full-self-driving-liability-could-be-massive “For those that have followed the Tesla story, you know that CEO Elon Musk has basically talked about full self-driving for almost a decade now. The company still has not shown off the U.S...
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    Tesla HQ coming back to California

    https://ktla.com/news/california/tesla-hq-to-return-to-california-musk-announces/ Im guessing having your headquarters in a state that DIDNT ALLOW SALE OF YOUR PRODUCT wasnt the best move afterall.
  9. 2

    Tesla lawyers refute Elons assertions about Tesla battery life/reliability compared to ICE

    https://www.autoevolution.com/news/tesla-lawyers-dismiss-elon-musk-s-claim-in-germany-state-the-cars-last-only-130488-miles-210418.html
  10. 2

    Tesla cofounder says FSD is “Crap”

    https://www.autoblog.com/2023/02/18/tesla-cofounder-calls-autopilot-and-fsd-software-crap-that-could-risk-the-carmaker-s-future/
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    Tesla slams into stationary fire truck. Driver killed. Police say “unclear” if AP/FSD at fault.

    https://apnews.com/article/technology-business-injuries-fires-59d22dced75ec1ce6929c9dfb094524c
  12. 2

    Apple Co Founder: "FSD is a frightening, horrible experience".

    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/apple-co-founder-wozniak-takes-165739880.html
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    My 12 month review of owning my 2022 Model S Long Range

    Ordered before the price hike/at the $79k price point. Took about 9 months or so to come in at that time. 11/2021 build. No matrix headlights/no pivoting screen. (not that I'd ever pivot..the screen from the default position). White on white, 19" wheels, no FSD(had it on the 2017. $15k is...
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    Elon now under (yet another) investigation by SEC over false self driving claims

    https://techcrunch.com/2023/01/27/elon-musk-is-being-investigated-by-the-sec-for-tesla-self-driving-claims/amp/
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    NHTSA Probe into Tesla Self Driving moving “fast”

    https://stocks.apple.com/AbJBzXZZJRAua0N1aqwyw2Q
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    Mercedes approved for ACTUAL self driving in the USA. And will accept responsibility.

    https://www.thedrive.com/news/mercedes-benz-gets-approval-to-deploy-level-3-driving-tech-in-nevada “Mercedes is the first automaker to receive such approval in the U.S., beating out names like Tesla, General Motors, Ford, and even Honda”
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    FSD STILL unable to detect Do Not Enter nor Road Closed signs. In 2023.

    https://dawnproject.com/does-tesla-have-the-best-engineers-and-engineering/
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    Remember when Elon tweeted that the x/y would NOT be offered round wheel option?

    X/S is what I meant… Anyways.. https://electrek.co/2023/01/05/tesla-offers-round-steering-wheel-model-s-x/ And on the s/x order page, it’s now the default with yoke as optional
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    Elon Musk and his crash course of Tesla

    https://www.lamag.com/culturefiles/elon-musk-tesla-crash-course/
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    Another potential FSD or AP related crash. (Investigation Underway). Resulting in fire on the 405 in Cali

    https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-driver-watched-in-horror-tesla-crashed-burst-into-flames-2022-12 A Tesla driver watched in horror as another Tesla hit a barrier and burst into flames. Josh Kaplan was driving on the 405 freeway in Los Angeles when he encountered the crash. The driver of...
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    Federal Agency investigating Tesla for two more crashes possibly FSD related

    https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/12/22/nhtsa-initiates-two-more-tesla-crash-investigations.html Driver confirms FSD was active https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/2022/dec/22/tesla-crash-full-self-driving-mode-san-francisco
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    Marques Brownlee tests FSD on real roads. Calls it “stressful”. Requires multiple disengagements.

    “This is stressful, this is not what you’d hope for” “It’s comfortable on a highway, but not much else”
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    Electrek changes course: says Tesla FSD data is “AWFUL”. (Direct quote)

    https://electrek.co/2022/12/14/tesla-full-self-driving-data-awful-challenge-elon-musk-prove-otherwise/ “ The little data that is coming out of Tesla’s Full Self-Driving Beta looks awful, and that’s putting it mildly. We challenge Elon Musk to prove otherwise by releasing disengagement and...
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    My 2 year 2021 Model Y LR Review/Update

    Well, not mine, my wifes. (Purchased for her as a gift Dec 2020). White on White, LR, 20" wheel upgrade. Had ~6 miles on it at time of pickup. Added the Accel Boost maybe 5 months after purchase. PPF on hood only. NO FSD. She loves standard AP when on highway. In city she prefers hands on...
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    LA Times: Tesla says its self-driving technology may be a ‘failure’ but not fraud

    https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2022-12-08/tesla-lawsuit-full-self-driving-technology-failure-not-fraud
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    Apple abandons self driving car/says it’s not technologically feasible to achieve L5

    https://stocks.apple.com/AVDyPB6ORTQyqgKcpsfboBg Apple’s Project Titan has been in a state of limbo at the tech giant in recent months, upon realization that the ambitious self-driving-car plan is not currently technologically feasible.
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    Police in Alma assessing if FSD involved in Tesla driver fatality

    https://pilatessea.com/a-woman-dies-while-driving-her-tesla-in-alma/ “At the time of the accident, which occurred around 8:40 a.m., the pavement on boulevard Maurice-Paradis was not smooth.”
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    For those TRULY expecting FSD to actually do what Elon has claimed it will do…anticipate more delays.

    Elon Musk gambled big on Twitter. Tesla is going to pay the price. https://www.businessinsider.com/how-elon-musk-could-use-tesla-money-prop-up-twitter-2022-12
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    Tesla hit with (yet another) lawsuit by Florida man (not THAT Florida man) for deception/lying about FSD capabilities

    https://m.carcomplaints.com/news/2022/tesla-full-self-driving-lawsuit.shtml
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    For those who claim Tesla requires hands on steering wheel when on FSD

    Do you see any hands on the wheel here in Tesla's own video on their website? https://www.tesla.com/videos/autopilot-self-driving-hardware-neighborhood-long
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    Tesla reports two new fatal crashes involving AP or FSD Beta

    https://electrek.co/2022/11/16/tesla-reports-two-fatal-crash-autopilot-fsd-beta/
  32. 2

    Tesla Exec reluctant to have third party consultants see FSD Beta in action

    https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-fsd-beta-demonstration-ca-dmv/
  33. 2

    Tesla's large financial liability for lack of delivering the promised product

    https://seekingalpha.com/article/4547582-how-large-might-the-tesla-full-self-driving-liability-be
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    Tesla Demand Softens in China

    Oh ok
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    Tesla under federal CRIMINAL investigation over FSD

    https://electrek.co/2022/10/26/tesla-doj-criminal-probe-self-driving-claims/amp/
  36. 2

    As predicted: Elon moves goalposts on his FSD messaging

    https://electrek.co/2022/10/21/elon-musk-language-tesla-self-driving-changing/amp/ “Tesla is not only behind Musk’s schedule to deliver on the system, but now Musk has been changing the goalpost lately.” “The most frustrating part is that he obviously doesn’t have much credibility..”
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    For those interested in Cybertrucks ability to use FSD while being used as a boat. (temporarily)

    The thread here may be of interest. Particularly the poll results. https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/poll-i-believe-elons-statement-that-the-cybertruck-will-be-able-to-cross-rivers-and-even-seas.281611/#post-7088709
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    Poll: I Believe Elon's statement that the Cybertruck will be able to cross rivers and even seas

    "Cybertruck will be waterproof enough to serve briefly as a boat, so it can cross rivers, lakes & even seas that aren’t too choppy"(c)Elon
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    Pool: Guess the green light chime behavior

    Based on the photo. All the stoplights shown were initially red as I sat as lead car in the left turn lane. As shown, the turn lane light for me remained red as the other lights for the other lanes turned green. Considering I have no pending software updates (but don’t have FSD), considering AI...
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    Respected TMC Tesla Genius makes the news/says FSD is a SCAM

    https://www.autoevolution.com/news/tesla-hacker-calls-fsd-blatant-cash-grab-scam-advises-people-to-avoid-it-198009.html
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    Mercedes Driver Assist Vs Tesla Driver Assist(beta). You decide

    https://carbuzz.com/news/mercedes-level-3-self-driving-is-way-better-than-tesla-fsd
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    Breaking News: Class Action Lawsuit Filed Against Tesla re: FSD

    https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220914005888/en/Cotchett-Pitre-McCarthy-LLP-Files-Lawsuit-Against-Tesla-for-Allegedly-Misleading-the-Public-Regarding-its-Autopilot-and-Full-Self-Driving-Technology
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    Tesla Stan’s growing scared of FSD

    https://jalopnik.com/even-some-tesla-fans-are-scared-of-the-latest-fsd-updat-1849530170/amp “Even Tesla owners who describe themselves as long on the company, or bullish in their investment in it, see the new software as a downgrade. If I’ve learned one thing from Arctic Monkeys’ 2018 release...
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    Mobile Connectors back in stock on Tesla Website

    I never got my email notification reminder. Just happened to check this morning, and the order went through fine. (I hope this isnt old news)