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I would guess it would cost $6000 more than the 90. It will be nice when the gigafactory is online and the cost of batteries (and battery upgrades) decreases.
$6000 also happens to be the amount of the Colorado tax credit so I would be tempted to upgrade my 90D order.
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Tesla is secretly adding over 50 hp to the Model S P90D Ludicrous based on 3rd party testing, what does it mean?
Tesla is secretly adding over 50 hp to the Model S P90D Ludicrous based on 3rd party testing, what does it mean?
aesculus
Still Trying to Figure This All Out
The extra range provided by a 100 kWh battery will only help you if your single charge distance falls over the 90D range limit. Why? Because range is more dependent on charge time and supercharger distance. It has been proven over and over again that you can either sit in the car driving or sit in the car charging. As soon as you have to make a charging stop, that factor kicks in. And since it's much better to operate out the bottom of a battery than the top, you are basically buying something you will rarely use.
Now the good news is that this is an incremental step to getting us to the point where the average long distance trip will fit into one pre charge, or maybe just a bit over, so you would only have to stop once for say 15 minutes. You would need to figure out what that number is (400 miles?) and then wait for that size battery. For a Model X that would be over 150 kWh so we have a ways to go yet.
Now the good news is that this is an incremental step to getting us to the point where the average long distance trip will fit into one pre charge, or maybe just a bit over, so you would only have to stop once for say 15 minutes. You would need to figure out what that number is (400 miles?) and then wait for that size battery. For a Model X that would be over 150 kWh so we have a ways to go yet.
The extra 10kWh really doesn't sound much for a daily driver and I don't think I would ever pay that extra cost to have the upgrade but the abilities to supercharge faster (same experience on a 60D with 75kWh) and be able to charge to 100% (10% reservation for battery protection) are worth noting.
passcore
Member
Yup, it depends on your usual long commute. I generally travel from Atlanta to Nashville and the 240 mile trip requires me to recharge at an SC. Another 30 miles with a 10kwh increment in the battery range will be awesome. I would not mind paying for that.
In my opinion, the cost to upgrade from 90D to 100D should be around $10000 to 12000. It depend, if Tesla decide to unlock an additional ~50 HP also, then you may looking for 12K to 15K... Per Tesla "Battery limited maximum motor shaft power"
Super_Popular
Well-Known Member
I know it costs more than 500 dollars to go from 60D to 100D. I was referring to the penalty fee of changing the order after it's been confirmed.
Super_Popular
Well-Known Member
Could be 60, 75, 90, 100 where 60/75 having same performance and 90/100 having same performance, with the lower being able to software-upgrade to the higher option like 60->75 is now.
Skotty
2014 S P85 | 2023 F-150L
There's an ideal range. The question is, where is that ideal? The extra battery capacity has side benefits beyond just how far you can drive on a long trip before stopping. You might not need anything more than a Leaf in range, but whereas it might be imperative that you remember to plug in the Leaf each night, you can be much more care free with a longer range car like a Model S where forgetting to plug it in one night will likely have no impact on your following day.
Gas cars could have bigger or smaller ranges. It doesn't much change how much time you will spend putting gas in the tank. If we use those as a reference, the average auto manufacturer seems to think the ideal range is maybe 400-450 miles. With batteries, a bigger battery is a bigger expense than a bigger gas tank is, so I'd say for an EV the ideal might be 350 miles. Just guessing here, but I would say the EV ideal for a car like the S would be somewhere around the 120 kWh mark.
Gas cars could have bigger or smaller ranges. It doesn't much change how much time you will spend putting gas in the tank. If we use those as a reference, the average auto manufacturer seems to think the ideal range is maybe 400-450 miles. With batteries, a bigger battery is a bigger expense than a bigger gas tank is, so I'd say for an EV the ideal might be 350 miles. Just guessing here, but I would say the EV ideal for a car like the S would be somewhere around the 120 kWh mark.
2virgule5
Member
Tesla is probably going to keep 60-75 and 90-100 for the time being, at least until Model 3 is out. The 60 which is now positionned to attract model 3 resa holders may dissapear. The next battery upgrade may come soon after model 3 (using the new cell format) but I doubt there would be demand for more than say 110 or 120 KWh, apart from the Tesla pick-up truck. We would be around the 350 miles range that I agree is probably the sweet spot.
Ulmo
Active Member
Probably not, is my intuitive guess.What is the possibility that we have 100kw packs in our MXs already? Going from 85 to 90 in the MS didn't seem like enough of a bump... Maybe it was a 15kw bump?
xkwizit
Member
90 to 100 battery should hopefully be same size just more efficient cells, I would think.
I agree. As they improve chemistry, they have the ability to shave some weight or add additional capacity (or a combination of both). However, using 90 out of 100 (or 60 out of 75) is an acceptable amount of dead weight to carry around. Using 60 out of 100 is a significant amount of dead weight that would be better eliminated to improve range.
systemcrashed
Please Reboot
Interesting find today, Tirerack.com has the P100D listed as an option on their site now when you search for tires by vehicle.
