@croman - my personal belief is that bladerskb has psychological issues. I'm not being snarky or snippy. He isn't a typical troll - but he does fit the profile of a certain kind of maladjusted forumite.
Bladerskb clearly gets emotional about this topic - witness the way he keeps saying "you people" and going ad hominem in his thread replies. Something is wrong with this guy.
Pretty bold psychological assessment, but I don't understand his last post, so either I am ignorant, or you may be correct.
Its not driving in India. Its praying that Lord Ganesha keeps you alive and making it to your destination.
I really hope you are being funny and not actually praying to Lord Ganesha, but I support your right to do both.
And you know this - how? The issue will come down to statistics - whether or not camera-based self driving will be demonstrated to be statistically safer than human driving. AP1 got a 40% crash reduction. So far the stats are in Tesla's favor.
If the issue came down to sensors the problem would be solved already. Anyone can stack up sensors - the hard part is the software. What Tesla is doing is arguably a more challenging and ambitious approach than those using lidar to map out urban centers. Tesla is attempting to have neural networks learn to interpret visual scenes accurately enough to drive as safe/safer than a human being without precision cm maps.
Not sure I fully agree, as I will agree to AP1 adding safety, but there is a huge difference between a driver assist process and autonomous driving.
My perspective is that most other manufacturers are not just relying upon image interpretation, which relies upon accurate visualization of the environment which can be impaired by many factors, including weather, Having alternative sensory input no doubt will demand more advanced processing, but utilizing multiple input types may prove to be more successful.
We can predict all day long, but in the end what matters is what gets approved for public roads, and how much confidence do you have in a government entity to make that assessment, free of subjective bias.
Even more stringent may be the insurance companies, since they now have a surcharge just be being a ride-share driver, imaging the premiums for those with autonomous vehicles. Now they are the experts in stats.
Shattered dreams? Come on dude - this is so much hyperbole and drama. I have an AP1 car - I have no "dreams" to be "shattered." Nobody expected it to do FSD. Use logic here - AP2 has 360 visual coverage and a replaceable board.
There is no particular reason - other than invented worries and hand wringing of the hyperventilating nerds around here - to think that regulators won't give approval under some conditions if it is demonstrated to be safe. It may take a while but the sensors are there. There is no data on this thread - just a bunch of geeks wringing their hands.
If AP2 ain't tha ticket I'll sell mine and buy AP3. Who frickin' cares? This is the price you pay to be on the bleeding edge. HOWEVER - while there are/were obvious reasons why AP1 would never go very far there are no reasons for AP2 except, once again, data-free rants and speculation of forum nerds.
Tesla owns the software now, they built in a replaceable brain, and they have 360 degree visual coverage. At this point it is a question whether software and deep learning can get to safer-than-human in-at-least-some-conditions driving.
Agree to disagree, but my dreams were shattered when I realized my AP1 resale value just tanked by over a third of the purchase cost, once no hardware upgrading was offered, just 2 months after delivery of my X, plus the reality that no further enhancements to AP1 were forthcoming, never expecting FSD.
And you are way off base about the approval process, for as stated above, it's not just the govt and municipality's approval, but that of the insurance carriers.
"Who frickin' cares?"... those of us who invested high dollars for an expensive high-tech automobile do, clearly not you. Have you so much money that upgrading vehicles is meaningless to you?
Your patronizing and aggressive characterization of those of us thinkers who are debating these details indicate you truly are a hater, as does the number of your down ratings.
Why are you even on the forum other than to chastize and bully others??? Been of your meds lately?
I can wait to see your expected aggressive response.
