There're a few posts on twitter and here saying the update disappeared halfway through the download. Looks like someone got impatient with that happy button but a few folks managed to get theirs installed before it stopped.
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2020.12.5.6: Traffic Light & Stop Sign Control
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willow_hiller
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Knightshade
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Not at all.
I pointing out that ignorance- a term you originally brought up, not me- applied specifically to your ignorance of the fact that there are people with EAP access who never signed an NDA.
Someone being ignorant of a fact is not an insult- the world literally means you were not aware of a specific piece of knowledge or information. Which you were.
I guess you were ignorant of what ignorance is? Ironic!
Well- in general- yes that does sometimes happen... and if something under NDA is shared to someone NOT under NDA, they're obviously not bound by the NDA.
Also it's possible to add yourself to the EAP program without involving Tesla at all (though probably not for most people)
Just ask Green who did exactly that and has been reporting on 15.6 light/sign behavior recently.
For the stoplight/stopsign actions? Of course- it's an FSD specific feature, all new ones of which will require HW3
Knightshade
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If it's not a signed NDA then it's not an NDA at all.
Again contracts require both parties to explicitly agree and for there to be mutual consideration.
I can't just email you and say 'If you read this you owe me a million dollars'
I feel like you've already been told this before. Like, literally told exactly this- so I'm not sure where you're confused abotu it.
Sure there would since as others have noted that feature has gone to some non NDA folks in the past
Since the primary goal is real world software feedback from a small pool of owners, not secret-keeping, it seems to be working fine.
Folks have been ignoring the NDAs (those that even DID actually agree to em) for years and Tesla AFAIK has sued exactly zero of them so again you seem far more worked up about this than Tesla does.
willow_hiller
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Second post from Canada: 2020.12.10 is installing (Canada, pre-Raven 2018 MX hw 3.0 mcu 2) : TeslaLounge
willow_hiller
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Bug fixes... Maybe also relating to Premium Connectivity since this seems to be Canada focused for now: I’m located in Canada. My car is downloading 2020.12.10 software update. Only 6 cars have this update according to TeslaFi. I wonder what it brings? : TeslaLounge
It’s not Canada-focused. It’s rolling out all over the place. Brings Y to the same branch as the rest of the fleet, includes fix for an issue with Bluetooth disconnect/reconnect cycle. Release notes are the same as previous versions.
Garlan Garner
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Fantastic. We can move away from 2020.12.5.6
Can't wait till you do. This thread has been polluted enough about NDA stuff.
Garlan Garner
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Personal insults?
Constant trolling?
What brings me joy is this: Rear Bumper Reflectors, Rear Bumper Reflectors
I will always stand for what I believe is right. No diamond exists without constant pressure at some point.
I'm way to old and have gone through way too much to be influenced otherwise.
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I mean, they have a point. You pretty much single-handedly made this thread completely useless to anyone who wants to learn about 2020.12.5.6. Instead of reading about the update, anyone who comes here has to read about your personal opinions on early access, NDAs, and who knows what else.
Garlan Garner
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Im very Sorry you feel that way.
Are you saying that my stance on NDA is wrong? Just wondering.
Knightshade
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I mean, it factually is, and multiple people have pointed that out to you.
Weirdly you keep confusing "factual corrections" with "personal attacks"
Garlan Garner
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Personal attacks = shifting to comments about me...not about the topic.
I have no interest in discussing NDAs with you; based on what I’ve read in this thread so far, that would be a fool’s errand. As they say, you can’t fill a cup that’s already full. I’m just cautiously hoping that, since everybody and their uncle now know your opinion on the matter, you’ll be a little more considerate when picking places to share it.
Garlan Garner
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I was thinking that an open forum in a thread that could violate NDA's if discussed is a perfect place.
Its my hope that younger folks would become more aware and/or serious about following the rules no matter if you have the opportunity to break them or not.
Hopefully there are some younger folks who have been influenced to stand for what is right when they have the full chance to break the rules without penalty.
Hopefully they saw that you don't have to call people names, curse people out, or get belligerent or anything of the kind to stand for what you believe in a strong way. -- (character).
In these days and times...unfortunately - that's a strange behavior with a strange objective.
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