I am pretty curious too how Tesla Vision will reliably measure the distances in the front to lower sitting objects (which disappear in a blind spot for the windshield camera rather quickly) and then be accurate +/- 5-10 inches...
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2023 Model 3 without USS and proximity functionality [park assist / summon not available]
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Object persistence is the guess based on how their Optimus bot and FSD works
Well they showed it can but how well it works in the real world is different
I certainly appreciate the frustration of existing owners who had a feature removed. However, the new owners discovering that USS/parking assist is missing and stating how much of a loss and safety issue it is seems a bit over the top.
Well EuroNCAP lists "AEB Pedestrian - Reverse" as a feature on the Teslas that they tested, so I guess it isn't much of a stretch to think that it would detect and respond to cars as well, but it doesn't seem like they test that: Official Tesla Model Y 2022 safety rating and Official Tesla Model S 2022 safety rating
The Model S seems to have done slightly better than the Model Y:
It should've been ready as soon as they shipped the first car without the hardware.
You mean having your passenger get out of the car, and make gestures with their hands showing how far you are from the object in front of the car?
USS eliminated the need for having a passenger do that, and you get the same information inside the car. I suppose in the old days of metal bumpers you just moved forward until you hit whatever the the thing is, then back up 6 inches.
Honestly it really depends on where the people are. People in NYC parking on the stree with millimeters to spare? Sure.
Those of us in smaller midwest cities where we can parallel like a boss and have 3' of clearance in front and behind, probably less important.
Even when I had parking assist in the Yukon I never trusted it, I didn't know it's margin of error. The only time I really ever used it was in parking garages to make sure my rear end wasnt hanging out in the aisle. But again, I came from a newer vehicle without any real parking assist to M3 without USS....no harm no fowl *shrug*
Something always matters to someone, while many others don't care
fact is - Tesla cut overnight a feature from ordered cars and then promised feature restatement "soon" via software... still waiting...Honestly it really depends on where the people are. People in NYC parking on the stree with millimeters to spare? Sure.
Those of us in smaller midwest cities where we can parallel like a boss and have 3' of clearance in front and behind, probably less important.
Even when I had parking assist in the Yukon I never trusted it, I didn't know it's margin of error. The only time I really ever used it was in parking garages to make sure my rear end wasnt hanging out in the aisle. But again, I came from a newer vehicle without any real parking assist to M3 without USS....no harm no fowl *shrug*
Something always matters to someone, while many others don't care
Honestly it really depends on where the people are. People in NYC parking on the stree with millimeters to spare? Sure.
Those of us in smaller midwest cities where we can parallel like a boss and have 3' of clearance in front and behind, probably less important.
Even when I had parking assist in the Yukon I never trusted it, I didn't know it's margin of error. The only time I really ever used it was in parking garages to make sure my rear end wasnt hanging out in the aisle. But again, I came from a newer vehicle without any real parking assist to M3 without USS....no harm no fowl *shrug*
Something always matters to someone, while many others don't care
Need to come to the UK and try parallel parking a tesla without sensors and zero rear visibility for anything within a car length to the car. It won't be long before you hit something i can tell you. Ya could always get out and check multiple times as you squeeze into the small space - but don't take too long, whilst you are trying to get into that spot you are blocking the whole street due to the narrow roads and double parking on both sides......and you'll likely be getting wet.
Hell even without front sensors you run the risk of hitting small walls & posts - this sort of stuff is common place around the UK. The front camera is useless for that. The back camera is ok for reverse/parallel parking - assuming you can see out of it due to rain and road dirt!
The car should not have features removed that are standard in a car half it's price, that render's daily functions such as parking hazardous (due to the lack of any rear visibility), in over half the markets its sold in!
jeewee3000
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Preach on, brother.
It is a good point that the US has much bigger roads and parking spaces in general. Here in Belgium I have to "Manhattan Park" at least once a week. Very annoying without sensors.
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jeewee3000
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Yeah, I am NOT taking my new model Y to Paris or Rome on citytrip without parking assist, that's for sure.
When I used to drive a 20 year old Fiat Punto (my first car) I didn't mind so much
Same as parking in NYC... I drive my 1996 MB E-320 to NYC, not with my Tesla YYeah, I am NOT taking my new model Y to Paris or Rome on citytrip without parking assist, that's for sure.
When I used to drive a 20 year old Fiat Punto (my first car) I didn't mind so much
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