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Ingenext Boost Modules [aftermarket]
- Thread starter JPELKA
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Exactly. My C7Z06/Z07 was “much faster” than my boosted AWD and yet my fastest 0-60 time for that car never touched my slowest 0-60 time for this car. 0-100 on the other hand. lol
The C7Z is “2.95 to 60” and AWD boosted is “3.9”
Both are very false.
Why would anyone decide to pay 2k plus a voided warranty instead of trading their car for another that just costs a bit more (6k or so used)?
Exactly. My C7Z06/Z07 was “much faster” than my boosted AWD and yet my fastest 0-60 time for that car never touched my slowest 0-60 time for this car. 0-100 on the other hand. lol
The C7Z is “2.95 to 60” and AWD boosted is “3.9”
Both are very false.
Yeah I guess you guys are right - it really took a LOT to get the tires to grab under any conditions in my S7 when I launched, even though it was AWD. When they did hook it was pretty violent though.
This must be a matter of perception & memory because thinking back, the S7 just felt faster. I wish I had used an app to verify the 0-60, but I'm pretty positive it was comfortably under 4secs. I will track a few 0-60 runs tomorrow and hopefully I can get in the 3.7s range, which will make me feel better knowing at least the car is doing what it's supposed to do!
scubastevo80
Member
But with an APR tune they can run in the 10s...
The two cars aren’t in the same class so probably best to leave the RS7 comparison to the Model S
We can talk about horsepower, speed, etc all we want but what was it that everyone says:
speed, cheap, reliable. You can only pick 2 and you have to give up the 3rd. Well in this case...Tesla gives you all 3. It is the cheapest car for the speed and super reliable.
StealthP3D
Well-Known Member
Ugh...What's worse than running an ICE car? Running an ICE car with an aftermarket performance tune requiring special fuels. And increased maintenance and emissions. Here's what APR has to say about fuels for their tunes:
Sounds pretty involved to make the switch. I think I'll stick to clean and simple electrics for my daily driver!
StealthP3D
Well-Known Member
The RS7 needs an aftermarket tune and more expensive gasoline just to do what my bone stock Model 3 does? Does it cost more to buy too? Or just to own and operate?
scubastevo80
Member
I agree - there's more than just the numbers. Repeatability of times in multiple conditions (dry, wet, etc) is a big plus for Tesla. Lack of warranty concerns, more frequent oil changes and more expensive gasoline are certainly benefits. I'm a car guy, so I'm patiently waiting the day I can purchase an s2000 and supercharge it. I realize I'm putting myself in the RS7 bucket, but for me, there's just something special about the driving experience of a high revving manual transmission car that can't be found in Tesla. I'd argue the old muscle car guys would likely say the same.
A tuned RS7 is fun and sometimes faster than the M3, but expensive. I miss the “work” and “skill” of driving those types more in my head than in reality.
You guys are confusing the S7 with RS7...the S7 with APR tune is comparable to the LR AWD+ (boost), whereas the RS7 with the APR tune is more comparable to the P, or a fast model S (P90D).
And you don't have to put special gas - I always used 93 octane in my S7 and still got about 120 hp and 100 ft•lb torque. I had it dyno'd at the shop to verify APR's claims because honestly it was very hard to believe! And it only cost $1600 at the time, which was about 4 years ago.
And you don't have to put special gas - I always used 93 octane in my S7 and still got about 120 hp and 100 ft•lb torque. I had it dyno'd at the shop to verify APR's claims because honestly it was very hard to believe! And it only cost $1600 at the time, which was about 4 years ago.
There are definitely times that I miss having a manual transmission with a big dumb engine in the front. I was close to getting an M3 before I picked the P3. I'm hoping the Roadster 2 I wind up getting at some point will cure me of that though.
There’s honestly nothing wrong with loving both an electric and ice car. Can you eat a heathly everyday? Sure but you’ll always want something bad like friend food or soda. Tesla’s are not the end all be all cars.There are definitely times that I miss having a manual transmission with a big dumb engine in the front. I was close to getting an M3 before I picked the P3. I'm hoping the Roadster 2 I wind up getting at some point will cure me of that though.
Also for those who posted about tunes and fuel...you have to remember yeah you can achieve more hp but you have to run different fuel lines, different plugs, remember to switch maps, And constantly monitor you e85/gas content whenever you switch. And then there’s oil. A fresh oil change in a turbo car feels like heaven but you tend to change it more...every 1500-2000 miles and you have to run synthetic. That stuff comes out sharpie color black. To me that’s a hassle.
I rather lose 70mph plus everyday to all cars and win 0-60 every time. Not the opposite but that’s just me. Zero lag is just way more fun and addicting.
Dolemite
is my name
Seriously I hate the all-or-nothing thinking that we tend to get ourselves into - I don't know if it's a cultural thing or what. Wife asked me yesterday "do you prefer the mountains or the beach?" Why do I have to pick one? We live in the city. I like both. I also like cars. I like my Tesla. I miss my Miata. I enjoy driving other ICE cars. Someday, I hope to have the time/patience/space/money for a crazy sports car w/ a manual transmission.
And for all this talk of losing out at the top end... I've yet to really experience it all that much in my P3D. It still pulls hard into the lower-triple-digits, and I've yet to even come close to losing a race... even at low SOC, from a roll. So, I think we're alright. My personal take on it is that we're just spoiled with such brutal low-end launches that we expect the same at higher speeds. But that's not the case in any car. Look at your speedo, put your foot down @ 80 MPH, and see how quickly you hit 110. Not sluggish by any measure IMO.
I was never inferring this car is slow after 70 at all but with gears on an ICE car...they have an advantage. For once I never thought my car was “slow” but everyone likes to measure...is the race 0-60? 0-100? 1/8th mile? 1/4 mile? Etc.
It’s been 1.5 years I’ve had my car and the smiles never goes away or have I ever worried the car would never perform. Unlike an ICE car...altitude, weather, fluids impact performance. I don’t think there’s anything that actually impacts Tesla “performance”. I know weather impacts energy “consumption”.
Dolemite
is my name
Word. And I bet in the next 8 - 10 years... they'll have figured out that "problem," too.
