Amazed at all the 'disappointment ' threads

[Garlan Garner]

The performance specs haven't been released yet. 3 seconds isn't happening, but mid-high 4's is well within reach.

The range didn't change on the Dual Motors version. Why would the 0-60 times? This is mine below from the Tesla Website.

 

[zenmaster]

The performance specs haven't been released yet. 3 seconds isn't happening, but mid-high 4's is well within reach.

That doesn't make sense as Tesla would want a high profit margin for the P variant. 4.5s would not justify the option at their price point, simply due to competitor's offerings.

 

[Garlan Garner]

That doesn't make sense as Tesla would want a high profit margin for the P variant. 4.5s would not justify the option at their price point, simply due to competitor's offerings.

What competitor?

 

[ModelNforNerd]

That doesn't make sense as Tesla would want a high profit margin for the P variant. 4.5s would not justify the option at their price point, simply due to competitor's offerings.

So you're saying 4.5s isn't achievable considering what we know about the RWD version? Dual motors can't shave .6s off?

 

[Garlan Garner]

So you're saying 4.5s isn't achievable considering what we know about the RWD version? Dual motors can't shave .6s off?

Dual Motors didn't increase any distance. Soooo...

 

[zenmaster]

So you're saying 4.5s isn't achievable considering what we know about the RWD version? Dual motors can't shave .6s off?

No, I'm saying that the performance variant of the Model 3 would need to be under 4.5s from a value/dollar standpoint. I don't see why it wouldn't be achievable technically. The comparably lower weight will help significantly.

 

[ModelNforNerd]

Dual Motors didn't increase any distance. Soooo...

well, the delivery estimator is broken, too. there are no specs whatsoever listed for Performance or Dual Motors......

so I'd hold off on the absolutes just yet.

In fact, upon further review, I think I'm keeping the avatar for a while.

 

[Garlan Garner]

well, the delivery estimator is broken, too. there are no specs whatsoever listed for Performance or Dual Motors......

so I'd hold off on the absolutes just yet.

In fact, upon further review, I think I'm keeping the avatar for a while.

why do you say that its broken?

 

[ModelNforNerd]

No, I'm saying that the performance variant of the Model 3 would need to be under 4.5s from a value/dollar standpoint. I don't see why it wouldn't be achievable technically. The comparably lower weight will help significantly.

We all know not everyone buying this car is going to do a "seconds/dollar" comparison when checking the Dual Motor box, though.

And in the EV world, where's the competition for a Dual motor Model 3?

 

[ModelNforNerd]

of course you are.

Just for you.

 

[Garlan Garner]

Just for you.

I know...I know.

I'm so disappointed with Tesla that i don't even care about perception anymore.

 

[tomas]

Did we find out...

How the key card entry works?
How the new ventilation system works?
Frunk size? Trunk opening?
Final cd figures (0.23 vs target 0.21) limitations?
Battery sizes?
Motor power?
Exterior changes to nose/other elements?
If rear windows go all the way down into door?
If interior touchscreen is adjustable at all?
What Elon meant for spaceship controls?
What "something special" he had for early reservation holders and line waiters?
And the list goes on.

The answer is no to all of the above. Give us more substance Elon. I would consider myself a big supporter of the likes of Apple, Tesla, (and Fisker) etc but not to the point of blinding fandom - true supporters (and patriots) can not only herald and sing the praises but also provide objective criticism when promises fall short.

If you'd stop posting BS and read, you would have answers to 6 of those things. Most of the rest are not relevant metrics. Get to work.

 

[tomas]

And as someone with no smart phone and no desire to have one or lug one around, that's a deal breaker for me. I'll see what develops around possible alternatives, but if that's the final word then I'm out, sadly.

Wow. Admire your retro-ness. Try a smart phone. You don't have to lug it, they are quite small.

 

[labfm]

I'm not amazed. It's human behavior in the 21st "internet" century. People just complain, no matter what. If the car is 5K, people would complain why it's not 4K.

 

[Gen3]

No fed tax rebate in this country and province.

I hope to buy a used one from Ontario or Quebec in a couple years

 

[ModelNforNerd]

Wow. Admire your retro-ness. Try a smart phone. You don't have to lug it, they are quite small.

My 60 year old dad has a smartphone. Wow.

 

[dhanson865]

Unfortunately all the cars shown were the $59,000 model not the $35k model

Press Kit | Tesla

$44,000 for the Model 3 Extended range
$1,000 more if it wasn't black
$1,500 more if it had 19" wheels

Where the heck are you getting $59,000 from?

 

[Gen3]

Ah thanks for the correction. I knew they moved up something by two years but couldn't find a clear answer.

Elon said production would start end of 2018, but July 1st was line the sand for suppliers. They are ahead of schedule.

 

[JCB_Arizona]

I think since M3 is still several months away from full production, Tesla really doesn't want to go on promoting it. Tesla just had to show the world they're "producing" in the 2Q, which they sorta technically are now. But the real production doesn't start ramping up at least until December. I think this minimalistic reveal had lots to do with the continued 'anti-selling' of M3.

 

[tomas]

Press Kit | Tesla

$44,000 for the Model 3 Extended range
$1,000 more if it wasn't black
$1,500 more if it had 19" wheels

Where the heck are you getting $59,000 from?

Probably $5k luxury package + AP + FSD