Same solution as my 2003 dodge ram extended cab. Back in. We did the same with fire trucks before there were cameras.
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Any indications that front bumper camera can be retrofitted later on HW4 2023 MS?
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I guess parking sensors are gone then. Back to 2012 car features. I'm going to go do a test drive I think.The Model S/X now has just cameras, and an (inactive to the driver, as far as I'm aware) radar, that may be running in some sort of shadow mode. No USS on any Teslas, today. The 3 and Y don't have the radar, and Tesla has no plans to add it, says Elon. Elon also talks a huge amount of nonsense, so take that as you will...
Elon Musk clarifies reports of radar in Tesla Model Ys in China
Tesla CEO Elon Musk provided some explanation about the company's speculated use of radar in its all-electric vehicles.www.teslarati.com
How did they get rid of parking sensors at low speeds?
Notably for the HW4 Ys (and presumably Highland 3s), the wiring for the high def radar appears to be present. I believe radar-less HW3 cars also still have the wiring present for the old module.The Model S/X now has just cameras, and an (inactive to the driver, as far as I'm aware) radar, that may be running in some sort of shadow mode. No USS on any Teslas, today. The 3 and Y don't have the radar, and Tesla has no plans to add it, says Elon. Elon also talks a huge amount of nonsense, so take that as you will...
Elon Musk clarifies reports of radar in Tesla Model Ys in China
Tesla CEO Elon Musk provided some explanation about the company's speculated use of radar in its all-electric vehicles.
When digging through the wiring diagrams, it doesn't seem like USS would be terribly difficult to install as well (asides for requiring new bumpers). What I'm not sure about is the software side. I don't actually see a gateway entry for the USS, so I don't know if Tesla is detecting it live or if something else is going on.
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Yes, and we managed before without ABS, power steering, working auto wipers etc etc. The point is we HAD some really useful features, and Tesla removed them because... well... Tesla.
If radar is deemed essential to FSD since they added it back to Model S and Model X, you have to wonder what's going to happen to the hundreds of thousands of 3 and Ys as well. They would have been better off leaving the hardware there and turning it off to run their vision only experiment.
Since the front bumper camera was leaked in the firmware months ago, I certainly hope they are at least putting in the wiring harness now while waiting for parts.
Since the front bumper camera was leaked in the firmware months ago, I certainly hope they are at least putting in the wiring harness now while waiting for parts.
I’ve been researching adding a Tow Hitch on my S. I think I’ve found most of the parts, but in doing so, it got me thinking.
I’ve been trying to figure out why there would be different revisions to some of the body harnesses between HW3 and HW4. I think the cameras are run directly to the MCU. What I can come up with is Park Assist wiring being one. If they decontented the wiring because they removed the feature, you’d need to do the inverse to get Park Assist working which might require a different front harness and LH Body Harness. No small task to replace either…
I’ve been trying to figure out why there would be different revisions to some of the body harnesses between HW3 and HW4. I think the cameras are run directly to the MCU. What I can come up with is Park Assist wiring being one. If they decontented the wiring because they removed the feature, you’d need to do the inverse to get Park Assist working which might require a different front harness and LH Body Harness. No small task to replace either…
From my couch thoughts and slight investigation, I believe similar can be done with the radar sensor for Model Y's. My 2023 MYLR has the radar connector in the frunk tub area behind the support beam. I noticed it while I was installing the homelink module. Physically I dont see why we aren't able to do the same with the front radar. Buy the bracket, screw, and radar module, install it behind fascia and add the radar heater element. Just artificial software limits are all thats blocking us.
I saw in some other threads on TMC that as long as you have a friendly, official Tesla Tech who can fully unlock the gateway then you can edit the specific configuration options, i.e. like leecox said telling the car what equipment it has installed. Besides reinstalling all the software after editing the configuration (which would be necessary since car needs to know which packages/software to include/exclude to run) there shouldnt be much other fuss.
Apparently there is a radar module in the interior as well, looks to be pointing inwards. Reminds me of those old ultrasonic alarm systems for cars sensing if someone got inside. But that interior radar shouldnt be needed to have a more smooth traffic aware cruise control operation which is what I'm aiming for. I don't like Tesla Vision TACC phantom braking on me; computer just not a good enough judge with looking thru a camera.
One can spend too much time surfing the service manuals. https://service.tesla.com/docs/Mode...UID-79FC485C-B821-4E33-8209-0D49F4C5F38F.html
And yes I totally stand by the idea of being able to install those USS and enable them just like homelink except that creating the holes would be a large area for error, so I would still take that in to a SC to have it done.
I saw in some other threads on TMC that as long as you have a friendly, official Tesla Tech who can fully unlock the gateway then you can edit the specific configuration options, i.e. like leecox said telling the car what equipment it has installed. Besides reinstalling all the software after editing the configuration (which would be necessary since car needs to know which packages/software to include/exclude to run) there shouldnt be much other fuss.
Apparently there is a radar module in the interior as well, looks to be pointing inwards. Reminds me of those old ultrasonic alarm systems for cars sensing if someone got inside. But that interior radar shouldnt be needed to have a more smooth traffic aware cruise control operation which is what I'm aiming for. I don't like Tesla Vision TACC phantom braking on me; computer just not a good enough judge with looking thru a camera.
One can spend too much time surfing the service manuals. https://service.tesla.com/docs/Mode...UID-79FC485C-B821-4E33-8209-0D49F4C5F38F.html
And yes I totally stand by the idea of being able to install those USS and enable them just like homelink except that creating the holes would be a large area for error, so I would still take that in to a SC to have it done.
Looks like it's finally coming although I doubt a retrofit on the camera will be made.
www.notateslaapp.com
Tesla Set to Unveil Front Bumper Camera and Ambient Lights for Model S/X
Tesla to soon enhance Model S/X with front bumper cameras and ambient lighting, elevating safety and in-cabin experience.
www.notateslaapp.com
Would be amazing if true but agree it's likely only HW4 and won't be cheap.
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