... it seems we call it porpoising nowadays! (Lewis Hamilton knows all about it!)along with the lack of damping leading to it bouncing down the motorway.
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... it seems we call it porpoising nowadays! (Lewis Hamilton knows all about it!)along with the lack of damping leading to it bouncing down the motorway.
What was the impact to your insurance if you don’t mind me asking?I have fitted eibach springs.
I wanted them for the aesthetics more than improving the ride comfort, found the standard setup to be no worse or better than the Audi SQ5 we had previously.
Having had the springs fitted and full alignment carried out i can say it does make a difference. I feel the car handles better, yes it still feels the bumps, but no worse than i experienced on the standard springs. Even my wife was happy with the ride comfort on the Eibachs.
I changed insurer! I was with Novo, they asked for £100 extra.What was the impact to your insurance if you don’t mind me asking?
Lewis may not want to try this as regulations may not allow but we can try in our Tesla to see whether the porpoising is less with new modification McLaren has done!... it seems we call it porpoising nowadays! (Lewis Hamilton knows all about it!)
They'll get F1 sorted round about the same time FSD is really FSD! Anyway I was thinking more:Lewis may not want to try this as regulations may not allow but we can try in our Tesla to see whether the porpoising is less with new modification McLaren has done!
Given his problem, you'd have thought he'd have done better in the rain really!... it seems we call it porpoising nowadays! (Lewis Hamilton knows all about it!)
And the front is slightly taller than it actually is!Given his problem, you'd have thought he'd have done better in the rain really!
Just been out in mine and no thanks to this thread I've now noticed something I hadn't before and now can't unnotice it! It almost feels like the wheel base is a lot shorter than it actually is. Strange.
Well, I had my 30 minute test drive today. A Berlin-built MYP. Caveat for comparison: My M3LR is now 2 years old and has 31,000 miles so probably 'loose'. First impressions from the outside: Solid, well built (no out of proportion gaps), tall and looks like a luxury car. Inside: Seems more 'solid'. Seats are more comfortable, screen perhaps a slightly sharper image, much more room in front and back. Driving: The delivery of power is smooth but not much different to the 3. I would definitely say the noise from outside and the road is an order of magnitude less than my M3. I liked the car and I could easily convince myself to cough-up another £5000, cancel my M3P order and change for the YP...but...I'm pretty sure a 2022 M3 will now have the same build qualities as the Y and in my case, I don't need the extra space so I'll stick with my current order. However, when we come to change my wife's Disco next year, both of us are pretty sure it will be replaced by a Y.Will be interesting to hear your post test drive perspective.
Thank you, that really puts my mind a bit more at rest about my MYP order.Well, I had my 30 minute test drive today. A Berlin-built MYP. Caveat for comparison: My M3LR is now 2 years old and has 31,000 miles so probably 'loose'. First impressions from the outside: Solid, well built (no out of proportion gaps), tall and looks like a luxury car. Inside: Seems more 'solid'. Seats are more comfortable, screen perhaps a slightly sharper image, much more room in front and back. Driving: The delivery of power is smooth but not much different to the 3. I would definitely say the noise from outside and the road is an order of magnitude less than my M3. I liked the car and I could easily convince myself to cough-up another £5000, cancel my M3P order and change for the YP...but...I'm pretty sure a 2022 M3 will now have the same build qualities as the Y and in my case, I don't need the extra space so I'll stick with my current order. However, when we come to change my wife's Disco next year, both of us are pretty sure it will be replaced by a Y.
I would definitely say the noise from outside and the road is an order of magnitude less than my M3
May I ask ? What car did you own before the MY ?Hi All
We are 1000+ miles into the Model Y (it's our 4th EV, but our first Tesla).
I'm finding the ride to be AWFUL. Very jarring, jolting, skipping etc.. Is it a Bad car? Am I the only one with the issue?
I can't believe I'm even contemplating upgrading the suspension (or even selling it!). I'm very competent and happy to carry out any suspension work/Swap myself...(and inform the insurance company of course before someone shouts.. ). Has anyone upgraded in the UK (I say UK as the roads here are a delight.. not smooth.. more a series of short infills that kind of merge together to form a surface akin to the surface of a mogul field )
But it's a Brand New Car! Why is it so bad? Our MGZSEV was better.. in fact, my Renault Kangoo ZE van is better on the road!! That's no exaggeration! I'm struggling to think of a worse car that we have owned (perhaps an R53 race suspension Mini Cooper?). I'm even thinking about asking Tesla if I can test drive another Y as the one we test drove before we got it did not appear to be as bad??
So I'm a bit mystified? I LOVE virtually all other aspects of the vehicle.
All suggestions are very much appreciated..
I beg to disagree !The Y suspension is terrible, plain and simple. Anyone who thinks otherwise hasn't driving many luxury cars.
I've just seen another post, and a video about this on another site...
And the more comments I see about this, the more strongly I feel that in some ways the Model Y (and more broadly, Tesla) are a victim of their own success. Clearly it's not causing them any issues in terms of sales but it's a continuation of this Tesla vs 'The world' trend that permeates video content right now, which probably sprang from the initial 0-60 comparison videos when Tesla started stunning the world by beating supercars with a saloon.
There are examples where Tesla genuinely punch above their weight in terms of comfort, but not at the expense of an engaging driving experience. Which is no mean feat. It's not perfect, but nothing is, just a great balance of compromises.
But people comparing the ride comfort of a Model Y to the latest EQS or S-Class Mercedes for example... It's just bonkers. Also, accepting the overall setup is firmer, and more dynamic than these barges that are designed purely to waft people about with does not mean it's "bad" for everyone, or even "uncomfortable" at all
I think the ride vs handling debate is been there for many popular cars and the classic example is Rangerovers. They ride so well but there is a compromise in terms of their handling. People who go for Rangerovers do not expect the level of handling what they have it in a Macan/Cayenne etc.,The same logic applies to all BMWs and Audis - some excel in handling and some in ride comfort.No one does this for other manufacturers because there would be no story, hence "victims of their own success" but still... no one does this for other manufacturers for a reason... because deep down most buyers now understand that expecting everything is just a contradiction with cars, so why do people expect the Model Y for instance to handle like an M competition car, but also provide armchair-level ride comfort like an S-class on top of everything else it does?
I agree with a lot of this, but Tesla suspension is pretty unsophisticated and is a completely passive setup. There’s no adaptive dampers or other things that can be done to improve things, and the quality of the components seem more at the budget end. Expecting S Class wafting around is unrealistic as you suggest, but Tesla have only ever done a fairly basic coil set up or air suspension. I kind of think there’s a middle ground they could go for which would improve handling and ride.I've just seen another post, and a video about this on another site...
And the more comments I see about this, the more strongly I feel that in some ways the Model Y (and more broadly, Tesla) are a victim of their own success. Clearly it's not causing them any issues in terms of sales but it's a continuation of this Tesla vs 'The world' trend that permeates video content right now, which probably sprang from the initial 0-60 comparison videos when Tesla started stunning the world by beating supercars with a saloon.
There are examples where Tesla genuinely punch above their weight in terms of comfort, but not at the expense of an engaging driving experience. Which is no mean feat. It's not perfect, but nothing is, just a great balance of compromises.
But people comparing the ride comfort of a Model Y to the latest EQS or S-Class Mercedes for example... It's just bonkers. Also, accepting the overall setup is firmer, and more dynamic than these barges that are designed purely to waft people about with does not mean it's "bad" for everyone, or even "uncomfortable" at all.
No one does this for other manufacturers because there would be no story, hence "victims of their own success" but still... no one does this for other manufacturers for a reason... because deep down most buyers now understand that expecting everything is just a contradiction with cars, so why do people expect the Model Y for instance to handle like an M competition car, but also provide armchair-level ride comfort like an S-class on top of everything else it does?
I pretty much agree with this.I agree with a lot of this, but Tesla suspension is pretty unsophisticated and is a completely passive setup. There’s no adaptive dampers or other things that can be done to improve things, and the quality of the components seem more at the budget end. Expecting S Class wafting around is unrealistic as you suggest, but Tesla have only ever done a fairly basic coil set up or air suspension. I kind of think there’s a middle ground they could go for which would improve handling and ride.
the more comments I see about this, the more strongly I feel that in some ways the Model Y (and more broadly, Tesla) are a victim of their own success
I was a little surprised to find that it didn't come with air suspension ala Model X