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First, I admit I’m not following your argument. As you point out, EV’s are 90% efficient at applying their energy while properly tuned ICE’s are, at best, around 30%. Are you then implying that ICE’s have some sort of energy reserve that they can call upon when towing a trailer? As I pointed out in my post, ICE trucks have the advantage of a large fuel tank that EV’s don’t have, yet, but the 50% range loss still applies regardless of tank size.Pulling 7K of dead weight with a 90% unladen operational efficiency vehicle vs a 30% unladen operational efficiency vehicle will most certainly produce different results. The 90% efficiency vehicle (EV) cannot apply it's efficiency advantage to the 7K of dead weight. Zero advantage. That 7K requires a specific amount of energy to move it and it will have far greater impact to the 4 gallon equivalency battery pack than it will to the 20-40 gal tank of the ICE.
I don't think that the math is right. Energy consumed doubles in both cases, and efficiency remains the same. The difference is that an ICE truck starts with at least double the range.He's observing (I think) that bulk of a gas engine's energy use (wasted energy) is not affected by towed load. A 50% tow-load hit on a 90% efficient vehicle is (colloquially speaking) will run 0.5*90+10 = 55% of normal/unloaded, while a 50% hit on a 30% efficient vehicle will run 0.5*30+70 = 85% of normal/unloaded. Ergo heavy towing has a much more apparent impact on range per fuel unit for EV vs ICE.
A 50% tow-load hit on a 90% efficient vehicle is (colloquially speaking) will run 0.5*90+10 = 55% of normal/unloaded, while a 50% hit on a 30% efficient vehicle will run 0.5*30+70 = 85% of normal/unloaded.
Maybe they will start producing enough so people can take delivery.So the R1T picks up the Truck of the year award from MotorTrend. Well done, and nice to see an EV winning.
What a novel ideaMaybe they will start producing enough so people can take delivery.
I thought some have been delivered?Maybe they will start producing enough so people can take delivery.
I think most of those went to employees and other company people.I thought some have been delivered?
Ummm, I think you're wrong. Someone local to me (east coast) took delivery this week & posted details in our local Tesla groupI think most of those went to employees and other company people.
Yes, I heard that some have been delivered but not sure how many.Ummm, I think you're wrong. Someone local to me (east coast) took delivery this week & posted details in our local Tesla group
given that the R1T is rated 314 miles EPA ... what other truck is coming in the near future with a better range? F150 Lightning maxes out 300 miles EPA and the Cybertruck AWD was last quoted at ~300 miles. The 400 miles Silverado EV likely won't come until late 2023/early 2024 and initially is only available for $105k+ ... and by the Rivian should have the large 400 miles battery ready.The Rivian does look promising, but they need to produce more than 2 vehicles per day to find out where the market is. They have also delayed the 400 mile version for at least a year, so my interest is starting to fade on this one.
I hope they get their act together soon. Does anyone know how many R1T's they produced in December ?