Yes, Lexus I believe. Current laws allow it because you are still technically in charge of the car and responsible for taking over.
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Yes, Lexus I believe. Current laws allow it because you are still technically in charge of the car and responsible for taking over.
Since the steering system includes a torque sensor from the driver's input, it should be easy to override. It will sense this reaction torque and stop it's correction.
bonnie
I play a nice person on twitter.
It's not about doubting him. It's about understanding the interview process and recognizing that 1) less senior employees sometimes don't have all the facts & express inappropriate frustration, and 2) recognizing that someone's interpretation of a conversation is not always what was meant.
I suspect that Tesla management has not shared any info with him that shouldn't have been under NDA. (And honestly, I was a little taken aback over someone sharing anything that they felt was confidential, even though he was not under an NDA, on a public forum. Would you do that?? I'd consider that a betrayal of trust (if true) or just misinterpretation (more likely) of what was said.)
Canuck
Well-Known Member
bonnie
I play a nice person on twitter.
I doubt it. He was truly excited over today's announcements. Not everything is a conspiracy.
bonnie
I play a nice person on twitter.
Really, is that necessary? Seriously? Someone disagrees with you and you just go right at 'em. Nice.
Canuck
Well-Known Member
To conspiracy theory people, it is necessary to go on the attack. Just take a look at Alex Jones.
Not to go OT here, but kind of yes, let's go OT for a brief cool-off. I lived in Austin for 20 years and when I showed up in the mid-90s, Alex Jones was on cable access there. My roommate and I would come home from a night out at the bars, tune in, and laugh our butts off. If anyone has benefited from the Internet, it's him. I'd argue that people like Bezos would have succeeded in their own way. Jones needed the Internet. I suggest some YouTube of him in the 90s. Good stuff.
Perhaps, but that projected June timeline for the beta wasn't set that long ago from my understanding. So I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if there wasn't a cascade of delays.
Then you have Elon's statements about the 405 freeway. He's basically acknowledged what all of us know about the lane departure system. It gets confused by improper lane marking, faded lines, etc. He can claim it's the worst freeway, but most of the freeways and highways near me have a lot of the same issues. Essentially freeways in major metropolitan areas are always under some form of construction. They just go from one phase of horrible to another phase of horrible. Hell there are times I don't know where the damn center is.
I'm sure they'll have some version that works for reasonably good freeways in extremely boring places, but it's not going to be on-ramp to off-ramp cruise like they claimed. Instead its going to be lots of moments of it disengaging. But, it's still going to be a godsend for some places.
It's probably going to be released sometime after September so it really won't be useful for me until next summer. Personally I believe the hold up they're trying to decide what's good enough. It's a tough engineering/marketing/sales question.
stopcrazypp
Well-Known Member
All that still describes autopilot being released. The comments I was responding to talked about autopilot being cancelled. Elon testing it everyday means they must have some core functionality going already, so in the worse case they release what they have and disengage in places that it can't reliably detect the lines.
Bonnie, let's face it Elon is excited about everything he announces. I'm not saying there is any kind of conspiracy, but Elon being excited in not the right metric to use for anything.
kuttakamina
Member
Judging by how error prone lane departure is, autopilot is going to need hardware upgrades for it to be any degree of useful.
Imagine how useless if will be with snow or salt on the road. Maybe autopilot will need hardware upgrades for it to be useful? But that's gonna cost Tesla a lot of money.
Imagine how useless if will be with snow or salt on the road. Maybe autopilot will need hardware upgrades for it to be useful? But that's gonna cost Tesla a lot of money.
kuttakamina
Member
Ok I saw this press conference in October last year about some fancy autopilot features. The webpage showed off loads of amazing stuff like automatic parking, meet me at the curb, and autopilot. Bought the car. Now they tell me, "yeah all that is actually remarkably tricky". Had I known, I would have saved 30k by getting a CPO.
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Cyclone
Cyclonic Member ((.oO))
Kutta, but then a CPO wouldn't have let you get Blootiful or AWD! At some point (likely at the end of 2015), you will be able to use some more Autopilot function. In the meantime, you still already have TACC versus regular CC.
kuttakamina
Member
True and I hope you are right, but that autopilot is not going to work with salt and snow.
I don't know. Saving 30k is quite compelling. And I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way.
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