The "snake" is a bit of show, though, isn't it?
What can the snake do that couldn't be simply performed by a standard industrial robot right now?
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The "snake" is a bit of show, though, isn't it?
What can the snake do that couldn't be simply performed by a standard industrial robot right now?
Andyw2100
Well-Known Member
There's also the incorrect information about the speed at which the sensors will operate, which I've mentioned before, in that same part of the video. Musk explicitly states that the sensors will operate at all speeds, from 0 to 155 MPH. Yet most or all of the functions that rely on those sensors are now speed limited.
At 8:05, Elon Musk, still talking about the ultrasonic sensors: "And they operate at all speeds. So we're able to do this from 0 miles per hour to one hundred and fifty-five miles an hour. And...so...It'll detect if there's a car in your blind spot, if you've got a highway barrier on one side, if there's, uh, you know something you might, you know move into in any way possible."
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Cyclone
Cyclonic Member ((.oO))
I think its 90 mph for U.S.-spec cars, but higher (or maybe regular cruise kicks in?) above that for other regions perhaps?!?
gizmoboy
Member
Absolutely. A pair of motors on a 2D track plus a third to extend and retract would be fine, and probably far more reliable.
Not as funny with the "don't drop your keys" joke though.
In Europe, blind spot monitoring stops at 140km/h and the TACC stops at 150km/h. I agree with keesmod, here TACC should fall back to CC and let the driver cruise at higher speeds. Did a few thousand km's through Germany this summer and not being able to use CC at higher speeds was a dissapointment.
In the US, I'm pretty sure it's 88 mph that the blind spot warnings turn off and 90 mph is the max cruise speed. I tested both extensively over the summer.
Todd Burch
14-Year Member
Thought this was interesting:
In Wired's P90D review, the author describes lane keeping as if he actually used it (or perhaps a beta version of it):
Or perhaps he was just describing how he thought it would behave. Interesting that he mentioned that it overcorrects--that leads me to believe he actually experienced beta lane keeping.
In Wired's P90D review, the author describes lane keeping as if he actually used it (or perhaps a beta version of it):
Or perhaps he was just describing how he thought it would behave. Interesting that he mentioned that it overcorrects--that leads me to believe he actually experienced beta lane keeping.
stopcrazypp
Well-Known Member
VW did make a system with a standard industrial robot, but it takes up way too much space (much more than what is there right now for existing supercharger stalls, which is much thinner).
http://insideevs.com/volkswagen-develops-automated-quick-charging-e-smartconnect-wvideo/
I saw an automatic gasoline dispenser that uses a similar idea, but it takes up a lot more space and doesn't look like it can be used manually by a person (it's not like the above which uses an industrial robot, but rather it is a tracked system).
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perkiset
... this one goes to 11
I'd like to say that I get the warning at 90, but I'm usually on my way through that speed when I get it
Maybe they just assumed it was on and were just bouncing down the highway between cars and barriers :tongue:
Todd Burch
14-Year Member
The pictures from the article show v6, so it didn't appear to be on the car they were testing. I guess he was projecting his past experience with lane keeping onto the Model S? If so, seems a bit disingenuous to make the statement as if he'd experienced it.
They're probably concerned with drivers expecting mistakenly expecting TACC behavior when they are at those high speeds and it causing an accident. Meaning, the driver is driving along using TACC while the traffic is thick for ten minutes, then it opens up, he sets it for 100, gets a warning that it's just regular CC. Ten minutes later traffic gets thicker and the driver forgets that it's just CC now and not TACC (after all, chances are it's TACC 90% of time he uses the function) and by time he realizes the car isn't slowing down it's either too late or the driver panics. From a policy standpoint, I think it makes perfect sense not to switch back and forth mid-drive.
With that said, I do wish there was an option in the settings menu (only adjustable when in park) where you could toggle between TACC and CC. I'd want this for the many inclement days when TACC wasn't available due to issues with the camera. I'm sure they don't allow this for the same reason above, though.
Sogorman
Member
Well the good news is that if you use Elon's last release date ("1-2 months after EAP beta") we are now less than 32 days away from AP general release!!! Yeah!!!!!!!
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Not holding my breath, but seriously we are now 1 month into the 1-2 months of EAP testing.
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Not holding my breath, but seriously we are now 1 month into the 1-2 months of EAP testing.
Sogorman
Member
Yup. Warrenty long expired by then! TM better warranty out any and every part required for the lane holding function past the initial warranty, and base it off the release date / mileage of AP.
MartinAustin
Active Member
I don't think EAP testing has ever lasted more than 2 months. (very spotty information on that top secret program, of course...)
That said, the "D and something else" reveal event was October 9th, if I recall correctly. The one year anniversary of that reveal is only 25 days away, so (to quote wk057) I hope they get a move on!!!
It makes a lot of sense for the date of the X reveal to also demarcate the moment when 7.0 will be released on Model S.
I had picked September 20th, but that was before Elon's tweet about the 29th.
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