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Being told my VIN won't change

Discussion in 'Model S: Ordering, Production, Delivery' started by DougS, Nov 16, 2016.

  1. DougS

    DougS Member

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    So, my model S production date got moved from December to January. I inquired about whether my car would be a 2016 or a 2017 model and was told that if the car is produced in January, it will be a 2017 model year but the VIN won't change which doesn't make any sense to me as the 10th digit is "G" which denotes a 2016 model year. Furthermore, my insurance company is calling it a 2016 (based on that "G") as well.

    Anyone else in a similar situation been told this by your delivery specialist? Was your VIN changed and how long did it take to be changed?
     
  2. wesley888

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    I think when they say your VIN won't change, it probably just mean the last 6 digit won't change. Just a wild guess.
     
  3. muleferg

    muleferg Active Member

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    My X was supposed to be built in Jan. The vin has a G.
     
  4. JimmyMcNulty

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    When did you place your order, if you don't mind me asking?
     
  5. Dstrohl

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    While I like Tesla's ability to add things on the fly, and not make changes on a model year cutoff (which is what leads to the VIN number challenges I suspect), I'm not sure that I like it enough to override the "normal" model year approach that the rest of the industry uses. I'm not one for saying things should be done one way because they have always been done that way, but in this case, I have run into challenges with Tesla's approach almost every time I interact with anyone other than Tesla (and I don't even have my car yet.)

    I am getting a 2016 model S, with APv2 and (of course) the face lift front end, which means I cant just say I need to order part x for a 2016 model S, I need to specify if it was done before face lift or after... or perhaps if it was done after or before APv2 (if that makes a difference in whatever I am getting). The fact that they approach VIN's differently has already caused insurance challenges for some My own insurance assures me that I am actually getting a model 70D given my VIN, they feel I am mistaken when I tell them it is a 60. When I use selectors on 3rd party sites like Amazon or others, I have no idea if selecting 2016 model S is actually giving me stuff that will work for MY car, or for an older one.

    Of course, there is a very limited amount of 3rd party stuff out there so far anyway, so I guess it doesn't REALLY impact me as much as it annoys me. I wish the rest of the world would just update their systems to support a more flexible system, but given that I know that wont happen (anytime soon at least), it feels like this is a case where Tesla's "My way is better so to h#$$ with the rest of you" is working against us.

    I hadn't thought about the problems that OP (DougS) is mentioning, I hope though that it wont be too much of a problem, the title should be accurate if proof is needed.
     
  6. MP3Mike

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    Yes and no. You don't have to describe your car you just give them your VIN number and they will know what the correct part is. (Or they just look you up in their system and know your VIN.)

    Remember they are making 100s of changes a month to the production so cars that are just weeks apart may have different part numbers for the "same" parts.
     
  7. Dstrohl

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    True when ordering from Tesla, because they have a system that can handle figuring out what happened between VIN x and VIN y... but for example:
    if I wanted to order some XPEL film and install it myself, I would go to the xpel.com site and select:
    Search Coverage Options - XPEL
    there, I can order the front "bumper kit" with and without license plate option. no mention of it being facelift or not.

    Or, another example. I go to Amazon to check out some accessories:
    2016 Tesla S Parts and Accessories: Automotive: Amazon.com

    Now, for me, I pay enough attention to what I need and am getting that it seems unlikely that I would be caught unawares, but, especially once the Model 3 starts selling, there are a LOT of car owners out there who simply purchase a car, and don't really pay attention to what else has happened. They may know about their car, but did they pay attention all year to know that this feature is new from about half way through the year?

    Anyway, it's not a really huge deal in the end, there are enough other issues that will bite Tesla in the rear if they don't address them soon, but it is a little annoying (to me at least).
     
  8. DarkMatter

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    Even the legacy car makers do this. I've ordered VW and Audi parts before where there was a mid-year break and they had to look it up by VIN to get the right part, and then still had them get the wrong of the two versions. The difference is that they keep building something when it's obsolete instead of immediately making the change like Tesla does.
     
  9. muleferg

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    Oct 20th. My DS. emailed and ask if I wanted last of Dec. I decided to go for it.
     
  10. brkaus

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    My dodge truck motor and fuel system changed mid model year.

    Don't even get me started on my BMW. Only way to know which alternator or power steering pump (and related hoses) is to physically examine the car.
     
  11. DougS

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    October 14 order date
    Order confirmed on October 21st
    Original production date beginning of December with a mid-December delivery but due to my travel schedule, it was pushed to an early January build and mid Jan delivery.
     
  12. theslimshadyist

    theslimshadyist NashVegas!

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    I too was hung up on the 2016/2017 thing as well and initially I was adamant that If my car was to be delivered in December, I would rather wait until Feb to be sure of getting a 2017. The more research I did I found out that these cars are very different than the traditional auto year designations and whether it's an EOY '16 or a '17 it really doesn't matter. With a Tesla, things are constantly changing on the fly. Early year, mid year, whatever so it's an apples to oranges comparison.
     
  13. HebrHmr

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    Apple is pretty successful with this business model.. ;)
     

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