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Tezzie
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Hi, everyone,
I'm a Tesla newbie (Model S 100D) and am wondering about tires. I live in a fairly wild area outside in Southern CA, and it's hard on tires--2 years at most in my Prius, and I drive less than 12k miles/year. No snow, very little rain, just rocks and nails.
I called Costco Tire Service and they said they don't have access to the OEM foam tires my car supposedly has. But I've read the article in Car and Driver mentioned in this forum a while back saying that the foam actually makes very little difference.
So the question is, what brand of tires do you recommend when I need to replace them? I'm not a car person, just someone who drives to get places while also trying to help save the planet. The tire company I use will depend on whether they carry the appropriate tire. Thanks for your advice!
I'm a Tesla newbie (Model S 100D) and am wondering about tires. I live in a fairly wild area outside in Southern CA, and it's hard on tires--2 years at most in my Prius, and I drive less than 12k miles/year. No snow, very little rain, just rocks and nails.
I called Costco Tire Service and they said they don't have access to the OEM foam tires my car supposedly has. But I've read the article in Car and Driver mentioned in this forum a while back saying that the foam actually makes very little difference.
So the question is, what brand of tires do you recommend when I need to replace them? I'm not a car person, just someone who drives to get places while also trying to help save the planet. The tire company I use will depend on whether they carry the appropriate tire. Thanks for your advice!
Not the best but just want to add the point of reference.
I recently put on General G-Max, which is a UHP all season.
They are quiet, ride well and handle just fine are $170apiece on TireRack and only 25lbs apiece compared to 27 for most others.
That said even though I swapped to slipstreams from the old double spoke with the tire swap the efficiency loss is noticable and I don't feel I gained anything for it compared to the Primacy tires the car had when I bought it. I am concerned they won't work as well in winter either, have a few months before I find out.
I might look for a set of take off Goodyear's to try, the Primacy we're good but the price just had me hoping for alteratives.
I recently put on General G-Max, which is a UHP all season.
They are quiet, ride well and handle just fine are $170apiece on TireRack and only 25lbs apiece compared to 27 for most others.
That said even though I swapped to slipstreams from the old double spoke with the tire swap the efficiency loss is noticable and I don't feel I gained anything for it compared to the Primacy tires the car had when I bought it. I am concerned they won't work as well in winter either, have a few months before I find out.
I might look for a set of take off Goodyear's to try, the Primacy we're good but the price just had me hoping for alteratives.
Tezzie
Member
@SSedan, you have used a lot of words I don't understand!
What is a UHP?
Is Tire Rack mail order, or a local tire installation company? If it is mail order, do you just have them stored at home in case you need them?
What are slipstreams?
What is a take off Goodyear?
Thanks for your help. Everyone on this forum is fantastic so far. Glad to be a part of such a generous group.
What is a UHP?
Is Tire Rack mail order, or a local tire installation company? If it is mail order, do you just have them stored at home in case you need them?
What are slipstreams?
What is a take off Goodyear?
Thanks for your help. Everyone on this forum is fantastic so far. Glad to be a part of such a generous group.
SSonnentag
埃隆•馬斯克
Ultra-High-Performance ????
I plan to get the quietest tires I can find, but if I didn't drive many miles per year and knew my tires would get ruined before wearing out, I'd opt for whatever Big O had available. They have great warranties and will replace your tire if it gets punctured or damaged.
I plan to get the quietest tires I can find, but if I didn't drive many miles per year and knew my tires would get ruined before wearing out, I'd opt for whatever Big O had available. They have great warranties and will replace your tire if it gets punctured or damaged.
UHP is Ultra High Performance.
Slipstreams are the current stock rim, my car being older had a older rim design that was less aerodynamic.
Takeoff Goodyear's refers to nearly new ones someone replaced possibly with a rim upgrade. Some folks take the car to a tire place right away for new tires and rims and sell the near new original tires and rims at reasonable prices, current original tire is a Goodyear.
TireRack is a mail-order tire place that has a huge network of affiliated installers Nationwide. I use them for research but usually just ask a local tire shop to come close to matching their price. The tires I have now they came within $5 apiece and I was happy to keep more of my money local.
Slipstreams are the current stock rim, my car being older had a older rim design that was less aerodynamic.
Takeoff Goodyear's refers to nearly new ones someone replaced possibly with a rim upgrade. Some folks take the car to a tire place right away for new tires and rims and sell the near new original tires and rims at reasonable prices, current original tire is a Goodyear.
TireRack is a mail-order tire place that has a huge network of affiliated installers Nationwide. I use them for research but usually just ask a local tire shop to come close to matching their price. The tires I have now they came within $5 apiece and I was happy to keep more of my money local.
Tezzie
Member
I'm on my third Tesla (Model S going to wifey, I'm taking a Model 3)
2013 Model S 85: OEMs lasted 45k miles. The tires needed replacing, annoying rear wheel drive squeel, other defects, and no autopilot gave us enough reason to trade it in... Still a great car regardless and cornering felt better than my all wheel drive 85D.
2016 Model S 85D: OEMs lasted 50k miles. Tire caught a massive nail and ended up replacing all 4 anyway. Good Years replacement tires (whichever mentioned in this thread) lasted 40k miles and are now between tread depth 2-3 in the front and 3-4 in the back). Important to note that I don't rotate tires... Ever... My commute is 95% highway.
Currently at America's Tire right now (in Southern California), replacing all 4 at 90k miles with 4 Falken Pro G5 Sport A/S. Was assured by tire specialist that Falkens are a good brand. I'll just take his word for it. They do come with a 45k mile warranty whereas the Good Years didn't. Will come back to this thread the next time we need tires!
2013 Model S 85: OEMs lasted 45k miles. The tires needed replacing, annoying rear wheel drive squeel, other defects, and no autopilot gave us enough reason to trade it in... Still a great car regardless and cornering felt better than my all wheel drive 85D.
2016 Model S 85D: OEMs lasted 50k miles. Tire caught a massive nail and ended up replacing all 4 anyway. Good Years replacement tires (whichever mentioned in this thread) lasted 40k miles and are now between tread depth 2-3 in the front and 3-4 in the back). Important to note that I don't rotate tires... Ever... My commute is 95% highway.
Currently at America's Tire right now (in Southern California), replacing all 4 at 90k miles with 4 Falken Pro G5 Sport A/S. Was assured by tire specialist that Falkens are a good brand. I'll just take his word for it. They do come with a 45k mile warranty whereas the Good Years didn't. Will come back to this thread the next time we need tires!
We have the P7 Cinturatos on our 2007 Lexus Rx400h. They seem very similar to the Pirelli Scorpion Verdes that we had on before. We got 50K miles (80% fwy/20% city) on the Verdes but they got very noisy after 30K miles at speeds above 55mph as if it were a worn wheel bearing. Only have 10K miles on the P7 and they are very quiet. I'll have to see what happens in 20K-40K miles.
I think there is a lot of bad advice on this thread
A lot of people asking for advice live in Florida and California where they will never see snow. Why on earth would anyone want an all-season tire if they live in florida or cali? All-season is a compromised design for snow.
If you don't need the ability to drive through snow, the only tires you should be considering are summer tires.
This one is a summer tire that just came out. I have tried the non-tesla spec version in the past and it was excellent for sunny florida
A lot of people asking for advice live in Florida and California where they will never see snow. Why on earth would anyone want an all-season tire if they live in florida or cali? All-season is a compromised design for snow.
If you don't need the ability to drive through snow, the only tires you should be considering are summer tires.
This one is a summer tire that just came out. I have tried the non-tesla spec version in the past and it was excellent for sunny florida
barjohn
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For Floridians, your advice is probably accurate but even Southern Californians occasionally drive into the local mountains where we get snow, or drive out to Utah or up to Mammoth where we encounter snow and there are two passes driving to northern California that get snow so while not an everyday activity all-season tires can make sense for Californians and probably why the factory puts them on as OEM tires.
dark cloud
Active Member
This is the OP FYI:
i have the 19 inch rim and tire rack recommends
Cinturato P7 All Season Plus
Anyone has experience with this one. Ideally I want a tire that I won't have to replace for a while. This one is rated at 70,000 miles. I know it won't last that long but the next best is around 50,000.
Also what about ride noise and comfort? I have no other reference other than the OEM GoodYear tires.
Thanks!
Forgot to mention, I am looking for comfort and noise with decent wet/snow tractions. Wear is also a priority, but not as important as the others.
While those new Michelin tires will probably be fabulous summer tires they are not a good suggestion for his situation.
FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
Nonsense... did you read the original post?
Many Californians travel to the mountains during the winter months and need a good all-season tire for safety and do not want to use chains.
SomeJoe7777
Marginally-Known Member
I vehemently disagree with this.
Summer tires are made of a rubber compound that gets about as hard as stone when the temperature drops into the low 40s or upper 30s. They become dangerously unsafe, even on dry streets.
Even California and Florida get some cold days. Whether they get snow or ice is irrelevant, summer tires are not safe year-round anywhere in the US.
You MUST put all-seasons or winter tires on a car in the cold weather.
Michelin mxm4 was my conclusion after research and opinions sought through PM of the TMC elite (you know who you are.... no not you @lunitiks , you are the computer guy and meme guy)
If you are going to stray from the Tesla OEM tires, it looks like the Michelin primacy 3 for a 3 season, with the Michelin xice for a winter tire, is the best solution. Watch This Tesla Model S Ultimate Tire Comparison Test
Struja
“Frost”
I love this thread and yet I hate this thread!!! I started reading and thought I made up my mind that the Michelin AS3+ was going to be the tire for me (come March). Right now I have X-Ice 3's on for the winter and I HIGHLY recommend them for winter driving. Best combo of winter performance and quiet for a winter tire (I despise Blizzaks for road noise).
After reading the first few pages, I think I changed to the P7's. By the end of the thread, I was leaning MXM4's. WTF???
Like others have mentioned my most important criteria in order is...
1. Road noise
2. Energy efficiency
3. Tread wear
4. Performance
I figured that the P7's would be the quietest and best tread wear (which hits #1 and #3 on my list). While the MXM4's would hit #2 and a bit of #1 as well, but not so good on #3.
Thx for the confusion!
After reading the first few pages, I think I changed to the P7's. By the end of the thread, I was leaning MXM4's. WTF???
Like others have mentioned my most important criteria in order is...
1. Road noise
2. Energy efficiency
3. Tread wear
4. Performance
I figured that the P7's would be the quietest and best tread wear (which hits #1 and #3 on my list). While the MXM4's would hit #2 and a bit of #1 as well, but not so good on #3.
Thx for the confusion!
Struja
“Frost”
I don't know, please tell me? I thought the Primacy's had really poor tread wear?
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