Cat amongst the pidgeons - What if...

[MrBadger]

Hypothetical question.

If BMW launched an M3 hybrid with 0..60 time 0.1 seconds faster than Tesla Model 3P, to start shipping before year end (ie they could fulfil your order before Christmas) and competitive in price to the Model 3, what would you do and why?

Assume for the question that you have not yet taken delivery of your Model 3 and delivery might be some time Aug / Sep.

 

[interbear]

I’d stick with my Tesla Model 3 order for several reasons:
- Pure EV not hybrid like the BMW M3 you’ve suggested
- Superior charging network
- I don’t care about 0.1 seconds performance
- It may not arrive in July but I’m confident it’ll arrive by September
- I actually want Tesla to succeed in their efforts to disrupt the market, they’ve placed a bet, so have I

 

[Avendit]

I’d stick with my Tesla Model 3 order for several reasons:
- Pure EV not hybrid like the BMW M3 you’ve suggested
- Superior charging network
- I don’t care about 0.1 seconds performance
- It may not arrive in July but I’m confident it’ll arrive by September
- I actually want Tesla to succeed in their efforts to disrupt the market, they’ve placed a bet, so have I

What he said. Part of the change, not a follow on. Also, every other interior looks dated now.

 

[Krugerrand]

Could we make the hypothetical at least a teeny tiny bit more realistic/believable/possible? I just can’t stretch my imagination *that* much even for a hypothetical.

 

[Oddbin]

Same as Interbear. Had a couple of hybrids. They were good for what they were and were even my gateway to EV but I'm ready to go all in on EV and Tesla.

 

[Baldrick]

Nope, want to go pure EV.

 

[Avendit]

Although... A hybrid M3 might be able to match the range of a model 3? A friend said he was having to fill up every 100 (fast) miles on the autobahn!

 

[jelloslug]

Don’t forget that Tesla can send an OTA update that can make the car faster. Combine that with the issues of actually getting an ICE (or hybrid) to actually meet the factory performance numbers and the space compromises that a “tacked on” hybrid system has, I would stick with the Tesla.

 

[Peteski]

Not interested in hybrids, so would stay with the Tesla. BMW would have to launch a full BEV with tech to match before I would even consider it.

 

[Tony Hoyle]

If I wanted a Hybrid I could go to one of the many dealers around here and probably drive one off the forecourt.

I don't want a hybrid. And the model 3 is the only candidate at the moment for a 200 mile EV with a semi realistic delivery date.

 

[meavydev]

Technically I've got a hybrid with my i3 Rex and just sold my 430d XDrive for a LR AWD Model 3, but I'm still waiting for the Model 3

 

[tess19]

You guys are forgetting that the BMW M3 hybrid is self charging which a tesla isn't.

 

[-DB-]

Same as Interbear. Had a couple of hybrids. They were good for what they were and were even my gateway to EV but I'm ready to go all in on EV and Tesla.

This! Plus Tesla tech is just miles ahead of BMW.

 

[MorayEVGuy]

You guys are forgetting that the BMW M3 hybrid is self charging which a tesla isn't.

In the same category as those amazing Toyota self charging hybrids

 

[fakoriginal]

I’d stick with my Tesla Model 3 order for several reasons:
- Pure EV not hybrid like the BMW M3 you’ve suggested
- Superior charging network
- I don’t care about 0.1 seconds performance
- It may not arrive in July but I’m confident it’ll arrive by September
- I actually want Tesla to succeed in their efforts to disrupt the market, they’ve placed a bet, so have I

What they ^ said.

I am totally uninterested in performance, just practicality (range and storage) and it has to be pure EV.

 

[jelloslug]

You guys are forgetting that the BMW M3 hybrid is self charging which a tesla isn't.

Lexus is the only one with the self charging cars.

 

[Yev000]

You mean series 3 hybrid?

330e already exists, unfortunately its slower than model 3 SR+... "0 to 62mph acceleration of just 6.5 seconds" Just under 40k

And I wouldn't touch it with a very long barge pole in a universe where Model 3 is an option.

 

[Foucault]

Rumour is the next M3, which is due to debut in September, will be four wheel drive and depending on the rumours will have between 460bhp to 520bhp. If they made a hybrid version I dread to think how much power it would have. 600bhp? 700bhp? It’s already more powerful than anyone can reasonably use on the road. I could say the same about the model 3 performance but that didn’t stop me ordering one!

 

[gavine]

If the BMW is faster than the Model 3P, it will cost at least $10K more than the Model 3.

 

[animorph]

I won't ever buy another gas car. Eww.