rtanov
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No need - I leave the car in D - it can still roll forward and at the end of the wash just push on the pedal to drive off.Automatic Car Wash: "Put car in neutral, foot off brake"
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boiler81
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Fair point, but you could also disable regen through the control screen. The number of times where you'd want to disable regen seems fairly low, so i think removing neutral makes some sense.
At least make it harder to get into neutral by changing from half a push up to a FULL push up
It was the edge case of driving along and, due to conditions, wanting to go to neutral while decelerating, sort of like push the clutch on a manual.
Some automatic console shifters also allow drive to neutral transitions without pressing the side button, the level of detent likely more matches a full push versus half.
On the up side, at least the direction and wiper stalks are on a consistent side of the steering column now
.I accidentally shifted my Model S into neutral quite a few times when coming back from driving rental cars on vacation. Always managed to get it back into drive without stopping. I think I've done it once so far in the 3, andI'm pretty sure was able to get back into drive without doing anything special.
rtanov
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I don't see how putting the can in N would be safer than D. It's not like I am mechanically disengaging a motor or a transmission. The car can roll in both directions in D (provided that creep is off, of course), and as long as I make sure I don't accidentally step on the accelerator it's all good. Been doing this for more than 3 years with my i3's and now also with the TM3 for the half dozen washes I had to do so far.Is that safe for the cars and carwash attendants in front of you? Doesn't seem so.
This is it. If you don't make a mistake it's fine. The other way makes it foolproof, therefore it's safer.
rtanov
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But you'd have to also consider that at the exit you'd have to switch back to D and drive off quickly - this does not always work on the first attempt and with another car quickly approaching behind you might be unnerving. I'd rather take the other risk.
So not only did they change the stalk from left to right, they also changed the turn on from double click toward you to double click down? It is hard enough that now when switching between MX and Lexus, I kept turning on the windshield wiper on the Lexus. When I first learn how to engage the AP on the MX, I kept hi beaming the car in front by using the wrong stalk.
Shygar
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My ICE car's right stalk controls wiper function. Pushing up is a single wipe. When transitioning from my ICE to Tesla, I found myself accidentally putting the car into neutral when I just wanted a single wipe of the wipers. I never had any issue putting it back into D when I realized I had no throttle. I don't even think I stepped on the brake. Just down on the stalk and it goes back to D.
This is new control behavior for Tesla. In the S and X you can engage drive while rolling just by pressing the stalk down to the drive position (second detent). I'd like some more consistency between their models.
Really? The guy I quoted tested it and said that you either have to stop or double-tap the stalk down to engage drive while moving.
For clarification, that's double-tap to the second detent (like you would to engage Autopilot). The S & X can engage drive while moving with a single tap to the second detent.
Unfortunately, I don't have my Model 3 yet, so I can't film a video to show how it actually behaves. Perhaps someone else will oblige.
KJennerator
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KJennerator
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I believe this is because he said he was only going 10 mph. There may be a threshold for requiring the brakes to be pressed. He should repeat the test at or over 25 mph to see if the situation changes.
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