CHAdeMO Adapter (coming this winter)

[dirkhh]

Tesla answered, but not too helpful.

I really don’t have any information on the release of the European version, other than that it will be after the North American version. The North American CHAdeMO is targeted for a release by the end of the year, with widespread availability early next year.

OK, this is speculating wildly, but based on the things that we know and based on what is being said here...

• in North America by December 54th (sorry, couldn't resist) or so in small quantities
• better availability around end of Q1
• at the same time (March?) shipments to Japan
• they can string people there along for no more than a month or two until CHAdeMO is available (and that seems high - I think CHAdeMO is an absolute must have in Japan)

Give it the same two months or so until volume is available, so I'd guess Europe will see them around May / June of next year?

I repeat, wild speculation, just trying to put a story around the assumed dates that we have heard and some market context.

 

[brianman]

Should we start taking bets on who and when we see the first CHAdeMO charge at the Low suspension setting?

I'll start: Cinergi @ Feb 1st, 20xx.

 

[Cosmacelf]

Picture from Japan car show - it does exist!

 

[Johan]

Not to rehash but looks like it would stress the charge port mechanically in a significant way?

 

[stopcrazypp]

Not to rehash but looks like it would stress the charge port mechanically in a significant way?

As pointed out before, the connector locks so it should stress the locking pin, not the connector. So hopefully we won't see the same failures as for the UMC.

 

[Gizmotoy]

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Picture from Japan car show - it does exist!

Really illustrates how much bigger the Tesla connector is on the non-US cars.

 

[Mark Petersen]

I just have one question, way the heck is it so big
when I'm looking at it, almost halfe just have to be the DC part of the cable

 

[NoMoGas]

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Picture from Japan car show - it does exist!

That's a freaking unicorn if I ever seen one :biggrin:

 

[RandyS]

Here's a shot of the business end of the adapter...

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And here's what the charging port looks like in Japan with the cable plugged in and the green LEDs instead of the ring....

 

[doug]

Picture from Japan car show - it does exist!

Just realized that the "Tesla" end of that adapter is Type-2 (Mennekes), like Tesla is using in Europe. What style of connector are they using in Japan?

 

[widodh]

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And here's what the charging port looks like in Japan with the cable plugged in and the green LEDs instead of the ring....

It's the same port as the EU cars.

Chargeport looks exactly the same. It's a Type 2 inlet.

 

[stopcrazypp]

I just have one question, way the heck is it so big
when I'm looking at it, almost halfe just have to be the DC part of the cable

If it's completely rigid I think the stress on it might be a bit high, esp given the bulk of the thing. The cable part might offer some strain relief and make it easier to plug.

 

[hiroshiy]

We have mostly CHAdeMO quick chargers 50kW all over Japan and J1772, wirh no plan for Tesla Superchargers. So we'll need J1772 adapter for Mennekes type 2 in addition to CHAdeMO now...
Once MS starts delivering in March or April we'll see...

 

[doug]

I'm just surprised that Tesla went with the Type 2 connector in Japan instead of the Model S (TSL02) connector they're using in the US, given the similarities in their electrical infrastructure. Is the original Model S connector getting any use outside of the US and Canada?

 

[widodh]

I'm just surprised that Tesla went with the Type 2 connector in Japan instead of the Model S (TSL02) connector they're using in the US, given the similarities in their electrical infrastructure. Is the original Model S connector getting any use outside of the US and Canada?

Maybe the Japanese regulations require either a Type 1 or Type 2 inlet and don't allow non-standard inlets?

The Type 2 connector is superior to the Type 1 connector, so it's a good thing they went with Type 2 It would only require a Type 1 -> Type 2 adapter on the vehicle side for stations with fixed cables. (Which is almost all of them).

 

[Mario Kadastik]

Btw information I've heard is that the EU version of CHAdeMO will be 800 eur and available Q3 2014.

 

[markb1]

Has Tesla actually made any cars with the steering wheel on the right? I don't think there are any Japanese spec cars to show, so it's hard to conclude anything about the charge port.

 

[hiroshiy]

One of the Tesla employees confirmed that we'll be having Type 2 inlet for Japan. I haven't heard of any regulations about vehicle inlets though... First car with Type 2 in Japan. Even Leaf has CHAdeMO and J1772.

 

[markb1]

Do the Euro-spec onboard chargers work fine for single-phase L2 charging? I mean, can it charge as fast as a US spec car (80A) using single phase? I don't know much about it. But as long as cars with the type 2 inlet are as capable as US-spec cars, I guess it doesn't matter much. Neither version has a J1772 inlet, so an adapter is required with either version. It's just a clunkier connector.

 

[widodh]

Do the Euro-spec onboard chargers work fine for single-phase L2 charging? I mean, can it charge as fast as a US spec car (80A) using single phase? I don't know much about it. But as long as cars with the type 2 inlet are as capable as US-spec cars, I guess it doesn't matter much. Neither version has a J1772 inlet, so an adapter is required with either version. It's just a clunkier connector.

The EU version is also capable of doing 80A single phase OR 32A 3-phase.

It think it uses some relais to configure the chargers parallel on the same phase instead of spreading them out over all three phases.