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CHAdeMO Adapter (coming this winter)
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I have the 6-50 adapter and have used it zero times in > 18,000 miles. Just another data point.
stopcrazypp
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The Yazaki connector shown in the picture (and used in most CHAdeMO stations) weighs 3.5 lbs (1.6kg) not including the cable. If you add the socket on the Tesla adapter I would say there's a good 7 lbs or more hanging there.
http://charge.yazaki-group.com/english/pdf/YPES-15-1197E.pdf
Like I said previously, given both are locking connectors, I assume most of the weight is taken up by the locking pins (which I assume is more robust than the other pins, although it would still be more strain than anticipated at least on the CHAdeMO connector side). Otherwise, yes it would result in excess strain on the charging port.
I don't know where I would find a welding station on a trip.
For me the adapters are only for road trips. I have absolutely no range anxiety while in San Diego, and will not even be carrying the UMC (I plan on just leaving it plugged in at home)
pilotSteve
Active Member
Actually this looks like a very nice solution given all the problems Tesla faced. I'm going to order one now, especially after seeing this photo. As everyone knows we have lots of ChaDeMo stations here in OR/WA that I'd like to be able to use.
Zapped
Model S - PURE EV
Still cost the business $13k after a $12k Federal Tax Credit. Seems Nissan's $40k cost to install could be artificially high, so they're not really dishing out much. Doesn't TESLA install for at no cost to the business ? Be interesting to know how many businesses will go for the Nissan deal.
TurboFroggy
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Morristhecat
Member
Tesla has posted an updated picture of the Chademo adapter actually plugged in:
Nice to see something beyond a rendering. Its getting real! :thumbup:
$1000 for a year of gas? That would be something like only 10000 miles a year in a car that gets 40 mpg.
There are not a lot of cars that look and drive like the Model S that get 40MPG and I drive a lot more than 10k miles a year.
Just because the Model S is big and heavy doesn't mean that someone who purchased a Model S only would have bought a comparably heavy BMW, Mercedes, Audi, etc. My previous car was a Prius that averaged 48 MPH. If I had not purchased the Model S, I likely would have sprung for a Lexus hybrid at around $50k. My annual fueling cost in a Prius was around $1,400, Model S is just under $400, so in my case the cost of the CHAdeMO would be roughly equivalent to a year of gas savings.
I guess I don't use "a year of gas" as a measure of if something is worth getting for the Model S. The car itself is 90+ "years of gas", so one more for additional refueling flexibility at the destination city (where superchargers generally are not found), seems reasonable to me.
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DuncanWatson
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To be honest. $1000/year of fuel savings is probably the floor. Comparing a Prius to a Tesla Model S is being extremely generous to the generic ICE population. It may be accurate for a particular user but it certainly isn't the mean or even median convert. And if you are looking at potential converts vs actual the situation gets more biased toward lower MPG on the ICE side.
What is the current state of the Blink DC chargers? I know that Blink had problems with the J1772 plugs on their L2 chargers and did not maintain all the stations they installed. There are quite a few Blink DC fast chargers in the SF Bay Area, where I am. Is anyone here using these chargers on another vehicle and can report on their true availability? I put a lot of miles on my S every day and access to these chargers via the CHAdeMO adaptor would make a huge difference to me.
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TonyWilliams
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Virtually all Blink charge stations have potential failings, so it's not wise to expect that they are going to work. For CHAdeMO DC charging, at least you don't have to worry about them physically damaging your car like the Blink J1772 30 amp stations can.
Blink was recently purchased after sucking up over $100 million of your tax money (and sold for about $3 million), so I would expect that it will be a long time before that new company gets around to fixing all the Blinks.
Consider that any Blink that you find to work properly as a good day to buy a lottery ticket.
Blink was recently purchased after sucking up over $100 million of your tax money (and sold for about $3 million), so I would expect that it will be a long time before that new company gets around to fixing all the Blinks.
Consider that any Blink that you find to work properly as a good day to buy a lottery ticket.
The CEO of CarCharging Group sent an e-mail letter to Blink Network members which I partially quote below:
We will see how quickly their reputation improves. A key metric will be the amount of time it takes to bring offline CHAdeMO units back online. Stories like this one at Plugincars.com show how bad it has been at times.
stopcrazypp
Well-Known Member
I wouldn't hold my breath. CarCharging Group is stuck with it's own troubles in Chicago:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-0926-charging-ruling--20130926,0,7873451.story
They manage the Walgreens chargers too, so the reliability of those are probably a good indication of this company.
Johan
Ex got M3 in the divorce, waiting for EU Model Y!
Regarding the pics posted: If the J1772 Combo AC-DC is the "Frankenplug" then this is the "Frankendapter". It sure looks like it would put mechanical stress on the charge port. That said I'll want it as soon as they announce it in EU!
That link seems to require a membership, but here is another Tribune link that describes the tawdry dealings at length.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...n-charging-stations-electric-vehicle-stations
Philip MacAfee
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AMPd
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Can you elaborate further, any links to stories of blink chargers damaging vehicles would be great.
Tony's Blink home charging station melted his RAV4 EV. All the gory pictures are here. That event and others exposed the fact that Blink used J1772 handles from REMA that were very poorly crimped. The poorly crimped pins overheat when they're used at 30A. That eventually led Blink to turn down many home and public charging stations to 16A. Some folks got their J1772 cord replaced and the station turned back up to the normal 30A level. A related story at PluginCars.com showed that Honda put thermal protection on the J1772 inlet of the Fit EV and protected their cars from this same defect.
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AMPd
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Wow!
Interesting, I'm guessing the public blink chargers are ok since none have damaged any vehicles.
Thank you for filling me in!
