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Charging Station standards
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It's easy to like the look and feel of the Tesla charger, but the impact of Audi, BMW, Chrysler, Daimler, Ford, GM, Porsche and Volkswagen deciding on a new standard for chargers would clearly impact the EV world. The fact Tesla hasn't been a participant in these discussions is troubling, but the notion that 8 major players in the automotive industry discussing charger standards points to the probability of very serious deployment of chargers.
I would not assume that Tesla is not represented on SAE's J1772 committee. I think I read somewhere that they were. Also, Tesla most likely is using the J1772 communication protocol for DC SuperCharging, as they do for AC charging on all of their cars.
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W.Petefish
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+1 for hcsharp. (correction: Send them to Venus so that you won't see them again. Ever.)
The only reason that Tesla is using their own plug again is the simple fact that they had their design finished before SAE came to a consensus on what the charging plug should look like.
The only reason that Tesla is using their own plug again is the simple fact that they had their design finished before SAE came to a consensus on what the charging plug should look like.
and if those big company's will want to export their ev's to japan they will have to install CHADEMO-ports
so the conclusion, it can be a standard in one place, but not in an other!
we're not out of the woods
if they agree, is one possitive thing! so not a new standard for each of those few constructors!
it will be their standard!
anyhow all these plugs do the same thing: conduct electricity!
making adapters will be no problem
so the conclusion, it can be a standard in one place, but not in an other!
we're not out of the woods
if they agree, is one possitive thing! so not a new standard for each of those few constructors!
it will be their standard!
anyhow all these plugs do the same thing: conduct electricity!
making adapters will be no problem
Unfortunately, it's not so simple. These "plugs" are fairly sophisticated two-way communication devices, as well as a power source.
Norbert
TSLA will win
Even the European and US plugs of that (SAE/Mennekes) "standard" are different, in spite of what some recent articles say.
Can't decide between CHAdeMO and SAE? Why not have both!
from My Nissan Leaf Forum View topic - EVS comes back to LA for 2012
from My Nissan Leaf Forum View topic - EVS comes back to LA for 2012
Norbert
TSLA will win
Someone should bring a UMC 2.0 and make a photo of the SAE connector, from the side, with the Tesla connector next to it.
Norbert
TSLA will win
TRON
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Standard Charger
The companies Audi, BMW, Daimler, Ford, General Motors, Porsche, Volkswagen and Chrysler present a standard charger for their electric cars. The question is open if the other brands will also accept this as standard. The most important electric car brands like Renault, Toyota, Mitsubishi and Tesla are not involved.
See News on Hotels mit 32A Stromtankstellen - Charge hotels - where you can charge your e-car vehicle
The companies Audi, BMW, Daimler, Ford, General Motors, Porsche, Volkswagen and Chrysler present a standard charger for their electric cars. The question is open if the other brands will also accept this as standard. The most important electric car brands like Renault, Toyota, Mitsubishi and Tesla are not involved.
See News on Hotels mit 32A Stromtankstellen - Charge hotels - where you can charge your e-car vehicle
W.Petefish
Active Member
SAE should wake up an smell what they are trying to shove down the general public's throats.
Both Tesla and CHAdeMO have connectors that work very easily. SAE should just have adopted one of those standards for the J1772.
I wonder when someone will make a 3 headed unit.
Both Tesla and CHAdeMO have connectors that work very easily. SAE should just have adopted one of those standards for the J1772.
I wonder when someone will make a 3 headed unit.
If Tesla has an SEA -> Tesla adapter (like the J1772->Tesla), does it matter?
Its been mentioned before that the tesla fast charging is to be compatible with the new SAE standard, just as it was with J1772 with tesla having a product in market before anyone else. Its more like there are 2 standards (SAE high speed vs CHAdeMO), with most seeming to support SAE.
I've just been waiting for the standard to get approved and infrastructure build can start if this new standard is going to become the main one and infra build out can ignore CHAdeMO (or have both at stations)
Its been mentioned before that the tesla fast charging is to be compatible with the new SAE standard, just as it was with J1772 with tesla having a product in market before anyone else. Its more like there are 2 standards (SAE high speed vs CHAdeMO), with most seeming to support SAE.
I've just been waiting for the standard to get approved and infrastructure build can start if this new standard is going to become the main one and infra build out can ignore CHAdeMO (or have both at stations)
Norbert
TSLA will win
ChadS
Last tank of gas: March 2009
I just heard back from Schneider. They are aware of the issue (another Roadster owner hit it, and an ActiveE owner) and they have a fix going through the UL approval process. It sounds like they plan to upgrade units in the field when it's ready. Cool.
Yeah, the thing ain't pretty, and it's huge. Here's one of my pics:
To be fair to the Delphi, the cable and connector are very well constructed, and the cable was pretty light for 75A. I just don't like the form factor.
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