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Climate Change / Global Warming Discussion
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Dr. J
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This thread has devolved into alter egos replying to the same post. Sigh.
"Weather in one country isn't climate."
*Links to article about weather in one country*
nwdiver
Well-Known Member
Have you seen 'Behind the curve' on Netflix? It's equal parts funny and sad watching flat-earthers debate whose nonsense flat-earth ideas make the most 'sense'....
Two.
And you obviously completely the point about the same time the video was talking about, saying that global warming was bunk because it was cold in the US during winter, it was at the same time the the hottest summer on record in the Southern Hemisphere.
I love the way that deniers try the same BS every fricking winter. "It's cold! See! Global warming is bunk!"
If you look back a few months ago in this thread you can find an article about the reason why it was cold is because climate change has disrupted the jet stream, pulling the arctic air south.
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mspohr
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Improve contraception access to tackle wildlife crisis, urges campaign
Improve contraception access to tackle wildlife crisis, urges campaign
UN-backed campaign has been launched to help tackle the destruction of wildlife by boosting people’s access to contraception.
Growing human populations often underlie the destruction of nature, and barriers to family planning are the “most important ignored environmental challenge”, say the campaigners.
Improve contraception access to tackle wildlife crisis, urges campaign
UN-backed campaign has been launched to help tackle the destruction of wildlife by boosting people’s access to contraception.
Growing human populations often underlie the destruction of nature, and barriers to family planning are the “most important ignored environmental challenge”, say the campaigners.
mspohr
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Global heating: London to have climate similar to Barcelona by 2050
Global heating: London to have climate similar to Barcelona by 2050
London will have a similar climate in three decades’ time to that of Barcelona today, according to research – but if that seems enticing, a warning: the change could be accompanied by severe drought.
Madrid will feel like present-day Marrakech by 2050, and Stockholm like Budapest, according to a report on the likely impacts of the climate crisis. Around the world, cities that are currently in temperate or cold zones in the northern hemisphere will resemble cities more than 600 miles (1,000km) closer to the equator, with damaging effects on health and infrastructure.
Global heating: London to have climate similar to Barcelona by 2050
London will have a similar climate in three decades’ time to that of Barcelona today, according to research – but if that seems enticing, a warning: the change could be accompanied by severe drought.
Madrid will feel like present-day Marrakech by 2050, and Stockholm like Budapest, according to a report on the likely impacts of the climate crisis. Around the world, cities that are currently in temperate or cold zones in the northern hemisphere will resemble cities more than 600 miles (1,000km) closer to the equator, with damaging effects on health and infrastructure.
mspohr
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Great Barrier Reef hard coral cover close to record lows
Great Barrier Reef hard coral cover close to record lows
A series of “disturbances” – coral bleaching linked to rising water temperatures, crown-of-thorns starfish outbreaks and tropical cyclones – caused a 10% to 30% decline in hard coral cover across much of the world heritage landmark over the past five years.
Great Barrier Reef hard coral cover close to record lows
A series of “disturbances” – coral bleaching linked to rising water temperatures, crown-of-thorns starfish outbreaks and tropical cyclones – caused a 10% to 30% decline in hard coral cover across much of the world heritage landmark over the past five years.
nwdiver
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If you're ever on Family Feud and the survey is 'Climate change solutions (excuses) for people that want to keep burning fossil fuels; Your team would definitely win.
I don't think you're one of those people.... but you're feeding that narrative...
TheTalkingMule
Distributed Energy Enthusiast
The fastest way to alleviate overpopulation is to eliminate global poverty. Look at Germany....they need to beg young people to reproduce.
SageBrush
REJECT Fascism
No they do not. Immigration gets them all the arabs and muslims their heart desires.
Mader Levap
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Actually, relationship between having children and being in highly developed country is more interesting.
Basically, in poor ***hole country children are asset that get you money (free workforce on fields and the like). Many kids are also insurance against high mortality of children typical for third world countries.
On the other hand, in developed countries kids are financial black holes even without murican-style insanity like education debt. And this is actual reason why people statistically do not want children in highly developed countries. They cannot afford them.
Oh, and I do not see any way to eliminate poverty globally any time soon. No one would be left to be exploited by said highly developed countries, for example.
Basically, in poor ***hole country children are asset that get you money (free workforce on fields and the like). Many kids are also insurance against high mortality of children typical for third world countries.
On the other hand, in developed countries kids are financial black holes even without murican-style insanity like education debt. And this is actual reason why people statistically do not want children in highly developed countries. They cannot afford them.
Oh, and I do not see any way to eliminate poverty globally any time soon. No one would be left to be exploited by said highly developed countries, for example.
nwdiver
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It depends on how the question is asked. They acknowledge that extreme weather events are increasing and average temperatures are climbing but not so much that CO2 or fossil fuels are to blame... 2 + 2 = 4... but also 2 + 2 = definitely not 4. Too much cognitive dissonance.
It’s a first step, I suppose. Eliminate that particular line of nonsense and slowly build understanding to disintegrate the next.
SageBrush
REJECT Fascism
A decade from now jrad and the pharmacist will kinda sorta agree that the Earth may be warming but their analysis proves that CO2 is not the cause; and if it is the cause it is natural.
nwdiver
Well-Known Member
When deniers agree CO2 levels are rising they claim the Earth isn't warming.
So by that graph the sea ice extent is the same as it was on this date in 2012? Kudos to you sir
So arctic sea ice extent is unchanged over the past 7 years, even while CO2 has gone up from 400 to 415? Oh wait.............
When deniers agree that the Earth is warming they claim CO2 is not the cause.
When they agree CO2 can cause warming they claim most of the warming is some other as yet unidentified force causing most of it....
mspohr
Well-Known Member
Both of those things work to alleviate climate change.
It's not my fault that some people use them as an excuse to keep burning fossil fuels. I certainly don't.
I don't think we should ignore things that work just because somebody will use them as an excuse. Those people have plenty of other excuses. We're not causing more climate change by trying to fix it.
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