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Collected the M3P! First impressions and a few questions

loop68

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Yesterday was the momentous day we collected our M3P from West Drayton! We arrived at Tesla HQ at about 9:45 for a 10:30 collection slot. There were already 2 or 3 keen owners waiting. Luckily we were ushered in to the makeshift reception straight away in order to do the final checks and signatures. The car was brought out 5 minutes later and were shown around and given some time to look around and confirm that we are happy. 20 miles on the odo. At this point, the car was added to our Tesla account and we were on our way (to the Superchargers in the adjacent car park, since the car was supplied with only 30% charge).

Vin is 755 and the car has wireless charging and USB-C. However, there is no blue commando connector with the UMC, only the 3 pin 13A. I thought both are included?

By the time we finally set off around 11, there were loads of people queuing up for test drives and collections.

First trip was straight up to Richard and Chris at PP Protect (PP Protect – Vehicle Ceramic Glasscoat and detailing specialists) for window tints. This was about a 2 hour drive and we stopped at Northampton Grange Park Supercharger for a quick top up on the way.
Chris did an absolutely fantastic job as expected, having done a huge amount of Tesla's, and Model 3's in particular. I highly recommend making the trip if you want your Model 3 done properly!

Back just in time to pack and head off to France this morning (yes, i know), and eventually on to the Algarve until mid-September (more on this in a separate thread).

Next - my questions and impressions. This is my first Tesla, and my first ever experience even driving one. I'm a complete and utter car nut though, and well informed (i think) about the Tesla experience, thanks to this forum especially.

1. This is the quickest car I've ever driven. It made me genuinely burst out laughing the first time I floored it off the line. I have been driving a 911 Turbo for the past 12 years, so I know what a fast car feels like. This would smoke the Turbo, until maybe 120-140 mph.

2. We left the car charging on the TWC overnight, and it reached 99% before saying Charging Complete. Now sitting at 98% and still plugged in. Is this normal, perhaps because it's brand new? Any particular reason why it wont go to 100%?

3. Autopilot is revolutionary. It was easy to use and incredibly intuitive for someone who has always driven "manually" with lots of input. Having done a lot of long distance driving in various (mostly German) cars - this experience is incomparable in terms of comfort and relaxation while driving. However, there were a couple of minor "incidents" which, while not completely unexpected, are still worth noting:

60mph through the roadworks on the M1 by Luton in torrential rain and approaching darkness. Running on Autosteer (No FSD) in the middle lane. While passing a lorry in the inside lane the car slammed on the brakes because it thought there was an object ahead. It seems to have been a combination of this lorry slightly creeping out of its lane while passing under a bridge, and the heavy rain and splash. Not too concerning but it may have pissed off the guy tailgating me..

When changing lanes in Autosteer, the Lane Departure warning often starts screaming at me. What's the correct procedure? Indicate first, then nudge it out of autosteer by turning the wheel (a bit jerky), or disable autosteer by pushing the right stalk up before switching lanes?​

4. Supercharging is quicker than I expected. However, Northampton Grange Park would only give me a consistent 115kW both times I was there even though all other bays empty. SoC was around 20% on arrival both times. Is this just a issue with the location and the supply, or something to do with the car?

Similarly, Park Royal only ramped up to 166kW instead of the full 250, although SoC was around 30% on arrival.

tl;dr nice car charges and drives fast. very clever but requires close supervision. Nothing new :)

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Rooster6655

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When changing lanes in Autosteer, the Lane Departure warning often starts screaming at me. What's the correct procedure? Indicate first, then nudge it out of autosteer by turning the wheel (a bit jerky), or disable autosteer by pushing the right stalk up before switching lanes?

If you indicate then its less jerky to nudge out of auto steer and the warning doesn't usually come on.
 

DJP31

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It made me genuinely burst out laughing the first time I floored it off the line

That never gets old.

We left the car charging on the TWC overnight, and it reached 99% before saying Charging Complete. Now sitting at 98% and still plugged in. Is this normal, perhaps because it's brand new? Any particular reason why it wont go to 100%?

Probably the battery calibrating. Unless you are going to drive the car pretty soon afterwards it's not advisable to charge to 100%.It stresses the battery long term. You can charge to 80-90% routinely without a problem.

Supercharging is quicker than I expected. However, Northampton Grange Park would only give me a consistent 115kW both times I was there even though all other bays empty. SoC was around 20% on arrival both times. Is this just a issue with the location and the supply, or something to do with the car?

The car will determine what kW rate to take. The principle factors are the State of Charge (SoC) and the battery pack temperature. The higher the Soc the lower the rate of charge will be - rather like the rate you could fill a jug of water bearing in mind you can't spill a drop. fast to start and gradually tapers off.

Don't be fooled into thinking because the ambient temperature is hot so will the battery pack. Optimum pack temperature is much higher than you would think, and even driving for a good while won't necessarily raise the pack temperature. One method used is to accelerate aggressively and then ease off for full regen for a mile or so before you get to the Supercharger. Conditions permitting of course!

Occasionally the supply might be limited and on V2 Superchargers you can be sharing the supply with another car but mostly it's the car limiting it.

The 250kW headline rate is very much that - a headline.
 
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Durzel

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Great write-up. :)

Interesting to hear that it came with wireless charging and USB-C. Inevitable really, but good to have it confirmed.

Congratulations - enjoy in good health :)
 
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loop68

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If you indicate then its less jerky to nudge out of auto steer and the warning doesn't usually come on.

Thank you, noted! I thought this was happening, but I wasn't sure. It seemed to be smoother if I indicated and nudged in the correct order and timing.

16A adapter hasn't been included for a while now. I bought one separately.

Thanks! Good to know. I ordered a Schuko adapter from Tough Leads but its has a blue connector on the other end :(. Oh well will just have to avoid getting stranded in Europe..

The car will determine what kW rate to take. The principle factors are the State of Charge (SoC) and the battery pack temperature. The higher the Soc the lower the rate of charge will be - rather like the rate you could fill a jug of water bearing in mind you can't spill a drop. fast to start and gradually tapers off.

Don't be fooled into thinking because the ambient temperature is hot so will the battery pack. Optimum pack temperature is much higher than you would think, and even driving for a good while won't necessarily raise the pack temperature. One method used is to accelerate aggressively and then ease off for full regen for a mile or so before you get to the Supercharger. Conditions permitting of course!

Occasionally the supply might be limited and on V2 Superchargers you can be sharing the supply with another car but mostly it's the car limiting it.

The 250kW headline rate is very much that - a headline.

Very informative, thank you! I'll temper my expectations slightly.
 

Rustybkts

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I didn't know this? What cables do you get, I'll need to order anything missing

You get the standard 13A adapter on the "granny" cable plus a type 2 cable for plugging in 7kw fast chargers.

The Tesla "granny" or mobile charger will allow up to a 3.7kW charge rate with the correct 16A adapter on it which is clever. Is only 2.3kW with the 13A plug.

Oh and don't forget as you don't get anything to help with punctures so I purchased a pump from Amazon. Some also buy the temporary plug kits as well.
 
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Mr Miserable

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we were ushered in to the makeshift reception straight away

Makeshift!
LOL.
No, that was it - the prime UK Tesla delivery centre!
It's their busiest delivery centre and yes I agree it does appear makeshift. Any car dealer shifting the quantity of cars that Tesla do through West Drayton would have invested in a facility to deliver a magnificent delivery experience. In the grand scheme of things it would cost pennies.

....and chase them for your Type 2 cable.
 

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Supercharging is quicker than I expected. However, Northampton Grange Park would only give me a consistent 115kW both times I was there even though all other bays empty. SoC was around 20% on arrival both times. Is this just a issue with the location and the supply, or something to do with the car?View attachment 576149

Don't forget to use the satnav Supercharger list to pick where you are stopping to charge before reaching it as the car will heat the battery automatically if it knows where you are to charge for a higher charge rate.
 

Mr H

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I do hope you registered at the hotel when charging at Northampton, a few members have been caught out at that one.

What i've come across regarding the charging curve is that 250kw is only available up to 11% SoC and then it slowly tapers off.
 

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Don't be fooled into thinking because the ambient temperature is hot so will the battery pack. Optimum pack temperature is much higher than you would think, and even driving for a good while won't necessarily raise the pack temperature. One method used is to accelerate aggressively and then ease off for full regen for a mile or so before you get to the Supercharger. Conditions permitting of course!

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The 250kW headline rate is very much that - a headline.
This is no longer the case. A few updates ago the car preheats for Supercharging when the nav shows the Supercharger destination. There is an indication onscreen when that is happening. After two years of P3D+ driving it seems to me the taper for the 3 is a trifle less abrupt than it was for my prior P85DL. The v3 Superchargers also only seems to show peak charge the n the beginning SOC is below ~15%. I have only seen 250 once, when I had missed a large and was below 10% SOC on arrival. For certain experiences vary on numerous variables.

New owners of BEV do need some adjustment to that because it is unlike tanking up an ICE.
 
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VanillaAir_UK

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I didn't know this? What cables do you get, I'll need to order anything missing

Charging Connectors

Basically
Tesla Mobile Connector/UMC with 13A/3pin plug - charges at 10A; Commando not included - available from Tesla
Type 2 Cable of random length (normally >4m) and colour (normally grey or blue) - charges Model 3 at up to 32A (~7.4kW) single phase, 16A (11kW) three phase.
 
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loop68

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@loop68 is it my imagination or is your rear wheel slightly kerbed? If it was picked up like that I'd get straight on to them!

Let's not talk about it...:oops:

You get the standard 13A adapter on the "granny" cable plus a type 2 cable for plugging in 7kw fast chargers.
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Oh and don't forget as you don't get anything to help with punctures so I purchased a pump from Amazon. Some also buy the temporary plug kits as well.

I guess this changed at some point. I believe I read on Tough Leads website that the UMC comes with both a 13A and 16A socket lead. I'll have to order the 16A from Tesla I guess. Also got the jack pucks and tyre puncture kit just in case!

Makeshift!
LOL.
No, that was it - the prime UK Tesla delivery centre!
It's their busiest delivery centre and yes I agree it does appear makeshift. Any car dealer shifting the quantity of cars that Tesla do through West Drayton would have invested in a facility to deliver a magnificent delivery experience. In the grand scheme of things it would cost pennies.

....and chase them for your Type 2 cable.

LOL honest mistake! I presumed it was set up that way for Covid-related reasons.. I agree it could be a little more razzle dazzle

Don't forget to use the satnav Supercharger list to pick where you are stopping to charge before reaching it as the car will heat the battery automatically if it knows where you are to charge for a higher charge rate.

I've been inputting every destination in the sat nav for more reliable energy usage predictions. Noticed it came up with a message saying the battery was preconditioning as we approached Park Royal. Working as intended then :cool:

I do hope you registered at the hotel when charging at Northampton, a few members have been caught out at that one.

I did thank you! The signs seem very prominent now - on the back of every bay.

@loop68 I can't quite tell from your photo, but was the car supplied with Tesla's front mud guards like these:

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Yes, front mudflaps installed and rear ones in the boot!
 

Adopado

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I guess this changed at some point. I believe I read on Tough Leads website that the UMC comes with both a 13A and 16A socket lead. I'll have to order the 16A from Tesla I guess.

That's been the case for a while now. If you think you can take advantage of a 16amp or 32amp commando then the adapters are/were £32 each if picked up from SC (with added postage/packing if sent out to you).
 

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