Sadly still not fast enough. Really looks like we might need to switch to the one-dose strategy, at least in some places (upper Midwest, Florida, NY and environs). Delaying the second dose for 6-7 weeks or so should be enough to get us through this squeeze I think.Feels really weird to be near the top of one the the good lists....
seems as if we are getting plenty of vaccine
You didn't get an appointment when you got the first shot?
Title: Walgreens to switch second dose of Pfizer COVID vaccine to CDC's recommended timingGot our second dose yesterday at Walgreens. Their system automatically sets the second dose 28 days later. If you get J&J, they cancel the appointment. If you get Pfizer (we did) you can reschedule the second dose (starting on day 20) for 21 or more days after the first. We spent way too much time on their system figuring this out. . .
_ Walgreens has been administering the second dose of Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine a week after federal guidelines say it is ideally delivered, but the chain will change its policy to come into line with the government's recommendations.
_ While the extra time is not feared to be a problem, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention asked the drugstore chain to follow its guidelines, the New York Times reported Monday.
_ Until now, Walgreens had been administering the second dose of the Pfizer vaccine four weeks after the first, the company confirmed Monday to USA TODAY. Federal guidance is three weeks.
_ "We have been automatically scheduling patients’ second doses to occur a minimum of 28 days following their first dose to ensure that no dose is administered earlier than the authorized intervals and patients are able to complete the series vaccination," Walgreens spokesperson Rebekah Pajak said in an email.
I looked up the CDC page for Moderna and it still has 28 days listed there. Not sure why they moved to 3 weeks for Pfizer and stay at 4 weeks for Moderna.Title: Walgreens to switch second dose of Pfizer COVID vaccine to CDC's recommended timing
USA TODAY 5-Apr-2021
Walgreens will shorten the window between the first dose of Pfizer's COVID vaccine and the second from four weeks to the CDC's recommended three.www.usatoday.com
Not sure why they moved to 3 weeks for Pfizer and stay at 4 weeks for Moderna.
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Michigan is not so fortunate, but we're quite fortunate that as a nation what is happening in Michigan is not happening in more places. It's interesting how much worse it is than anywhere else. Though there are early signals elsewhere, we'll see whether or not they actually have time to explode as vaccination continues. Just a few weeks away now from a level of immunity where rapid outbreak growth will be difficult...hopefully.
Good thread showing the basic breakdown of cases & hospitalization by age. Definitely need to continue to get older people vaccinated!
Maybe I'm confused by what you're asking, but that's because those are the recommended intervals that were tested during the clinical trials, so that is what the CDC is recommending (3 weeks for Pfizer, 4 weeks for Moderna).
They said it was easier to administer (which does not meet FDA/CDC guidance).why was walgreens not on the same page to begin with?
I guess I don’t understand. My understanding is that the government asked them to get with the program and follow the guidance, so I don’t see how that is not the answer? It caught the attention of the government, and they were asked to change their system.why did they change? (note the answer to that isn't to follow CDC guidance, it has to explain why the change, not what they changed to, or who they decided to follow).
They said it was easier to administer (which does not meet FDA/CDC guidance).
From NY Times:
‘Using the same gap for both vaccines was “the easiest way to stand up the process based on our capabilities at the time,” Dr. Kevin Ban, Walgreens’s chief medical officer, said in an interview.’
I guess I don’t understand. My understanding is that the government asked them to get with the program and follow the guidance, so I don’t see how that is not the answer? It caught the attention of the government, and they were asked to change their system.
I’m just really confused here, sorry. Not trying to be flip, I am just not following where the confusion is. Walgreens was doing what they were doing because it was easier for them, and they probably wanted to avoid accidentally administering Moderna doses 3 weeks apart (another hazard). Still, does not seem that complicated a problem to resolve.
For Pfizer, per Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine Information | CDC, 4 weeks isn't too bad.They said it was easier to administer (which does not meet FDA/CDC guidance).
Persons age 16 years and older should receive 2 doses at least 21 days apart.
- Second doses should be administered as close to the recommended interval as possible.
- If it is not feasible to adhere to the recommended interval, you may schedule the second dose up to 6 weeks (42 days) after the first dose; there is limited efficacy data beyond this window, but a dose after this time does not need to be repeated.
I already provided some whys.
Yeah it is likely totally fine and possibly better. No one knows really.For Pfizer, per Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine Information | CDC, 4 weeks isn't too bad.
It’ll be interesting to see the final stats. This certainly is not a surprise. This is why we all get vaccinated - to protect these people who were also vaccinated but for whom it didn’t work!Almost 300 known breakthrough cases and 3 deaths so far in Michigan among the vaccinated population. Likely more that haven’t been reported yet.