Ironic that we had to have a complete change in administrations for people to even have this discussion seriously.
ever visited Ft. Dietrich, in Frederick, Maryland, USA?
i had to repair a medical instrument there, covered with fine white powder
the powder i later found was an aerosolized decontaminant , instrument was gassed to kill any “bugs, etc”, so nice and toxic for living critters, big and small, including perhaps me
was i told to “glove up, paranoia level 11”?
not an ‘effing chance’ so worked on it bare handed, no masks, gloves, nada, none available either in sight anywhere
later recognized machine in a newspaper photo in Baltimore Sun, E4A, electrolyte analyzer, in a room with overhead air lines for the workers, so it potentially had _blood sera_ residue, coupled with article about coworkers who were refusing and suing to not get vaccines to allow them to work safely there. (they lost)
did i become a typhoid mary? was I a vector of something?
who knows? not me, still wonder occasionally
(you remember Serratia Marcessions(sorry abt spelling) experiment in NY subways decades back (50 yrs or so) on infection vectors
over 30 years ago but nobody there gave a Flying F at the time about potential patient zero.
ever been to Hazleton labs in Reston, Virginia, where the Reston variant of Ebola almost emerged?
worked on medical equipment there also
you had to be carded into the building I went to
Ebola building was next over, subsequently razed, a bit far over.
workers left the back door unlocked for random smoke breaks.
You need at least 1 very paranoid person as a lab safety officer wielding “the hammer of ghod” to raise the awareness.
conversely,
worked in another RIA lab where we were very paranoid and did lots of cleaning, used geiger counters to check for spills which were not allowed, very clean very, cautiousl and randomly checked.
this does not even address the sociopath psychopaths that occasionally work in labs
we went to a lecture in the psychology department at Virginia Tech around 1970, and listened in growing, silent horror, as this gruff elderly grandfatherly type gentleman, interspersing his talk with “heh heh” as attempt at humor, describing giving people doses of LSD without their knowledge “heh heh, 1 subject threw a person down the stairs, heh, heh” while dosing them with massive amounts hallucinogens.
completely removed from reality the researchers were, the subjects were no more than lab rats to be tortured.
at a different lecture a chem professor casually commented about making 6 liters of LSD
(6 million, 100 microgram hits)
however, i’m still willing to believe Covid-19 was a zoonotic, not a lab release
somewhat akin to “jumping genes” since life swaps genetic codes all the time, but what do I know?