FWIW, a week ago (last Saturday), I was around a person for several hours who developed symptoms on Monday. So far nothing, so I guess I'm clear (I tested negative last week, but that was before last Saturday). No idea if the fourth Moderna helped or not. Because most of the time (over two hours) was spent in the X and she was in the second row seat, my guess is that the X and it's A/C system had more to do with not getting it than the fourth Moderna dose.
Ah. Mine came in a little plastic protective sleeve, transparent only on the front and I haven’t taken it out or really had any opportunity to notice that. I guess they were thinking ahead. Four did seem bit low. I guess I’ll run out next year.
Just wondering what situations were you unmasked and where you think you may have contracted it?
The wife’s theory is that she got it when she and the daughter got facials in a spa - not in hotel but at a place they found elsewhere. She was in a small closed room. Attendant wore mask, but if room wasn’t properly cleaned, that could be it. Daughter was in separate room, did not get it. Their facials were Saturday mid-day. Or in the elevators of hotel which are very small - she didn't wear mask once or twice. I think I started in once w/o it and then put it on. We saw a show on broadway, but everyone had masks on and we never took them off while there. We had them off in restaurants, but they were big and open. Wore masks at the MET, in every taxi, frequently on the street, in every store, on the train to/from the City. So, not too many attack vectors. For sure one of the two of us got it and infected the other. Since her symptoms appeared first (Tuesday morning, mine started Tuesday night) theory is she got it first.
On the subject of masks, Amazon currently has a deal for 20x 3M N95 masks for ~$11
Recent reviews seem to be poor, citing strap breakage. This may be old stock.
No mention of cardiac rhythm abnormalities, just TTEcho looking for structural cardiac abnormalities. My wife is a cardiologist and saw significant increases in cardiac arrhythmias, especially Atrial Fibrillation in post COVID patients. They also state that they are unable to biopsy heart, lung or brain cells to see if there were any abnormalities caused by a organ (non-systemic) autoimmune response. In the comments there were questions asking if blood clots in organs were investigated, and there has been no response. Micro clots have been suspected of being a possible cause of the pulmonary, cardiac and neurological issues of Long COVID. This study seems half-baked to me, as in not all potential issues were actually investigated. They primarily looked for systemic immunological markers.Another paper saying not much evidence for long covid:
A Longitudinal Study of COVID-19 Sequelae and Immunity: Baseline Findings | Annals of Internal Medicine
Background: A substantial proportion of persons who develop COVID-19 report persistent symptoms after acute illness. Various pathophysiologic mechanisms have been implicated in the pathogenesis of postacute sequelae of SARS-CoV-2 infection (PASC). Objective: To characterize medical sequelae and...www.acpjournals.org
They said they didn't identify clinical markers for PASC among the tests they administered. They also frankly admitted a host of limitations in their study. That doesn't mean the condition doesn't exist. I thought it was fairly objectively done. But it was, as Madodel points out, limited in scope.Another paper saying not much evidence for long covid:
A Longitudinal Study of COVID-19 Sequelae and Immunity: Baseline Findings | Annals of Internal Medicine
Background: A substantial proportion of persons who develop COVID-19 report persistent symptoms after acute illness. Various pathophysiologic mechanisms have been implicated in the pathogenesis of postacute sequelae of SARS-CoV-2 infection (PASC). Objective: To characterize medical sequelae and...www.acpjournals.org
Problem is they won’t be able to go back to normal without resurgence at some point. They need to get everyone boosted (and may as well also boost people AGAIN with a retargeted vaccine) if they don’t want to do this 1000 times.
I've been using electrolyzed water to wash fruit and vegetables since the beginning of Covid. I have an appliance that makes it. Just add salt (4 g) and vinegar (4.75 g). Never thought about using it as mouthwash.
We will see. There is a lot of potential development that can change this at some point in the future. For now I think Xi is okay with making his country a hermit kingdom. It’s probably very aligned with Xi thought. Maybe in a few years China will have their own mRNA vaccines for all current and most future variants, with a stockpile of antivirals and decide to open up. Xi can claim that his actions saved millions of lives, tens of millions of long covid and that chinese communism is superior to western democracy. Meanwhile he got rid of a lot of opponents in Shanghai for their ”failures”, made people used to obeying the government and prepared his country to fight bio-terrorism if he ever decides to do some gain of function and release a pathogen…
