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c’mon...the owner clearly is too with arguably the most to lose since their capital and livelihood is both at risk.
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c’mon...the owner clearly is too with arguably the most to lose since their capital and livelihood is both at risk.
SageBrush
REJECT Fascism
First off, testing has very limited utility in a population that ignores social distancing and public health measures to reduce the risk of transmission.
Second (and this requires confirmation) the CDC test failure was reportedly due to a decision to use a trump associated company for test development. Don't blame the CDC for that, blame the sociopath who gave the directive.
Last, the poll did not ask for finger pointing, it asked about the perceived severity of the Covid-19 epidemic.Those that identify as Republicans are much more likely to take their cues from the sociopath in the White House, and they are twice as likely as Democrats to not view the Covid-19 epidemic as a real threat.
It seems fairly obvious that people who do not view the epidemic as a real threat are the primary vectors since they will not follow public health guidelines to reduce transmission.
Know your enemy.
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Didn’t say anything about finger pointing. Polls like that are hard to get good data off of. It will say what you want it to say.
Didn’t blame the CDC. My original post was calling out all the people in charge who screwed this up. Then responded to another post about how CDC guidelines were followed.
Pollution likely makes things worse with Covid19.
This is probably one of the reasons the Lombardy numbers are so bad: that's one of the worse regions in Italy for PM10.
Air pollution likely to increase coronavirus death rate, warn experts
Don't downplay this thinking the US is too wide and large: the problem will never be Arkansas or Utah, but Los Angeles, New York, Chicago. Dense cities will be enough for nightmarish scenarios.
This is probably one of the reasons the Lombardy numbers are so bad: that's one of the worse regions in Italy for PM10.
Air pollution likely to increase coronavirus death rate, warn experts
Don't downplay this thinking the US is too wide and large: the problem will never be Arkansas or Utah, but Los Angeles, New York, Chicago. Dense cities will be enough for nightmarish scenarios.
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bkp_duke
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Interesting, you posted a study that is scientifically rigorous and well-presented. This one I can get behind.
For those that don't want to read the whole article, here are the important numbers:
Blood group A - higher risk for COVID-19 (odds ratio-OR, 1.20; 95% confidence interval-CI 1.02~1.43, P = 0.02)
Blood group O - lower risk for COVID-19 (OR, 0.67; 95% CI 0.60~0.75, P < 0.001)
For those not versed in statistics, the OR (Odds Ratio) and P values are the key numbers her. An OR of 1.0 by definition means the two groups you are comparing are equal for the specific comparison.
So in this case, Blood group A OR = 1.20 means that individuals in Wuhan with Blood group A had a 20% higher chance of infection compared to the average. Conversely, Blood group O individuals, with an OR = 0.67, had a 23% less chance of infection.
Both are statistically significant because the P values are less than 0.05.
bkp_duke
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This one is just a data reporting paper, with well-done statistics. There is no intervention, so a random controlled trial is not applicable.
COVID-19 has some interesting preferences for infection. We know:
1) older people have a higher mortality rate
2) males have a higher mortality rate
. . . and now . . .
3) Those with blood group type A are at higher risk for contracting the virus
I have been telling people to take advantage of restaurant delivery/carryout while they can in case of future closures. Plus it helps these businesses stay afloat and keeps the bills paid for employees. Tip drivers well as it's one of the most dangerous jobs normally.
I sent a bunch of pizzas to my local ER, fire/EMS station, and PD station last night. I figure these people are going to have a really shitty month so may as well show them some love.
I sent a bunch of pizzas to my local ER, fire/EMS station, and PD station last night. I figure these people are going to have a really shitty month so may as well show them some love.
My O blood may come in handy? Sweet. I'm off to go lick some things.
bkp_duke
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Airlines should be required to improve their service before getting any kind of bailout. Every year it becomes more and more painful to fly.
Just wait until we have to take off our shoes, get body scanned, and then have our temp taken rectally before flying.
bkp_duke
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Been over that several times in this thread. Hydroxychroloquine and chroloquine both have shown since the 1960s anti-viral properties in vitro (i.e. a testtube). The problem is those properties have never once translated over to in vivo (in people).
There are ongoing studies that have been fastracked due to the current pandemic, but my official medical opinion is that I would not hold your breath for this to pan out.
X Fan
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Couple of notes:
Young folks are accused of not following social distancing rules (sorry, WSJ article so may be pay wall): A Generational War Is Brewing Over Coronavirus
Testing is improving both in quantity (Thermo Fisher shipping millions of kits this and next week with ramp up capability to 5M per week) and efficiency: as I've noted, my youngest son is a Dr. at UNC Hospitals. Their research team has developed a test that can provide results in 4 hours (update: first few hours this morning, they had 54 tested. 52 negative, 1 admit, 1 sent home for quarantine). Their protocol is to sample and first test for flu and other viruses and then, if negative, the sample is used to test for Covid-19.
Meanwhile, I'm on day 3 of my isolation with symptoms mild.
Young folks are accused of not following social distancing rules (sorry, WSJ article so may be pay wall): A Generational War Is Brewing Over Coronavirus
Testing is improving both in quantity (Thermo Fisher shipping millions of kits this and next week with ramp up capability to 5M per week) and efficiency: as I've noted, my youngest son is a Dr. at UNC Hospitals. Their research team has developed a test that can provide results in 4 hours (update: first few hours this morning, they had 54 tested. 52 negative, 1 admit, 1 sent home for quarantine). Their protocol is to sample and first test for flu and other viruses and then, if negative, the sample is used to test for Covid-19.
Meanwhile, I'm on day 3 of my isolation with symptoms mild.
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bkp_duke
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Saw a related article on Spring Break in FL right now. The beaches were packed with kids.
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
Because you want as many people touching your food as possible? No thanks, stay home and cook.
X Fan
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Yes, Florida has not taken the necessary steps in all markets to reduce social interaction. Miami Beach & Orlando has (via Disney shutting down) but other beach areas are continuing as business as usual.
Gov. of this State has shown competency in the Environment, Conservation and improving water quality but I believe he should be shutting down beach sites, loss of tourist revenue be dammed.
HG Wells
Martian Embassy
Man tests positive. Checks himself out of hospital.
Wont stay home.
A Kentucky coronavirus patient refused to quarantine, so police are surrounding his house to force him to - CNN
Wont stay home.
A Kentucky coronavirus patient refused to quarantine, so police are surrounding his house to force him to - CNN
bkp_duke
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JRP3
Hyperactive Member
Sometimes it cures itself, permanently.
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