scottf200
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I wonder if the 'Grand Total' (lower right) will switch by time this is 'mainly' over. eg. ignoring guidelines and denying vaccine when available.
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I wonder if the 'Grand Total' (lower right) will switch by time this is 'mainly' over. eg. ignoring guidelines and denying vaccine when available.
To highlight how the Tesla Model X is the best vehicle for a pandemic. You do not have to touch any doors - nor do any of your passengers, you do not have to go to any gas stations and touch handles that a lot of other people touch and it has a biodefense hepa filter.
And yet you would be surprised how even with multiple layers of safety they screw it up. I agree, I would try not to be sending both vaccines to the same hospital. KISS
A hospital pharmacy deals with thousands of different medicines and tens of thousands doses a day. I see no reason to limit them to one COVID vaccine.
I wonder if the 'Grand Total' (lower right) will switch by time this is 'mainly' over. eg. ignoring guidelines and denying vaccine when available.
This would probably be more dramatic if broken down to the county level.
dhanson865
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Knoxville my hometown listed as the worst mid sized city on the latest white house report
Nashville only 3rd in the big boys category.
Nashville only 3rd in the big boys category.
Tell my niece. Despite having to go through at least 3 "safety checks by different people, being color coded they gave her the wrong medicine giving birth. Instead of the medicine to induce labor they gave her the exact opposite. She coded and now has permanent heart damage. The baby - born blue - was taken to another hospital for the ICU for several weeks. 5 years later still unknown if he has any permanent damage. It was the hospital pharmacy that did the initial screw up. I see EVERY reason to limit them to one Covid Vaccine - at least at a time.
As a neutral observer from across the pond, I thought lots of states were close to 50/50 Trump/Biden. As another poster said it would be better to see the County level. Or at least can you show a graph for big majority Trump States vs big majority Biden States?I wonder if the 'Grand Total' (lower right) will switch by time this is 'mainly' over. eg. ignoring guidelines and denying vaccine when available.
I may have missed it, but there hasn't been much discussion of the two new mutations detected. The new one in Europe we've known about for several weeks and appears to be about 70% more infectious than previous strains. The last I saw on this strain said that right now the medical community does not think this strain causes more severe cases though.
I also read that the US dropped the travel restrictions with the UK right about the time the new strain was announced.
The latest news is there is yet another mutation in South Africa that is both more infectious and may cause more severe cases than previous strains.
Africa has been doing unusually well compared to the rest of the world, but with this mutation on the loose things may get bad there very soon.
At least the first half of 2021 could be worse than 2020, at least on the medical front.
I also read that the US dropped the travel restrictions with the UK right about the time the new strain was announced.
The latest news is there is yet another mutation in South Africa that is both more infectious and may cause more severe cases than previous strains.
Africa has been doing unusually well compared to the rest of the world, but with this mutation on the loose things may get bad there very soon.
At least the first half of 2021 could be worse than 2020, at least on the medical front.
Johan
Ex got M3 in the divorce, waiting for EU Model Y!
It is correct that a new genetic variant is spreading a lot currently in the UK. It doesn't seem to cause more severe cases. We don't know if there's anything about this strain that makes it mor infectious (something biological about the new variant) or if there are other societal factors that is causing an increased spread at the moment and that it just so happens that this newly identified variant is the one that is mainly in circulation in the UK at the moment. Epidemiology isn't as easy as one might think and even if there is a real uptick in cases, and these cases have the new variant, that does not automatically mean it must be more infectious. Just a note.
TheTalkingMule
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scottf200
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Aside: Sorry for the slightly political slant which I know this thread is not about ... I think the ignoring guidelines and denying vaccine when available aspect of COVID19 being politicalized is going to have some negative long term consequences on health not only short term but long term.
Election results maps 2020: See how many people voted, county numbers
From the HealthData Gov report:
https://beta.healthdata.gov/National/COVID-19-Community-Profile-Report/gqxm-d9w9
Here is an interactive map that show the percentage splits down to the county level. I was surprised by some areas I knew.
Election results maps 2020: See how many people voted, county numbers
From the HealthData Gov report:
https://beta.healthdata.gov/National/COVID-19-Community-Profile-Report/gqxm-d9w9
The last map is not a valid comparison. It needs to show deaths per number of population. Most of the red counties have few people in them compared to the urban ones. Even if they were to all die it wouldn’t necessarily look bad.Aside: Sorry for the slightly political slant which I know this thread is not about ... I think the ignoring guidelines and denying vaccine when available aspect of COVID19 being politicalized is going to have some negative long term consequences on health not only short term but long term.
Here is an interactive map that show the percentage splits down to the county level. I was surprised by some areas I knew.
Election results maps 2020: See how many people voted, county numbers
From the HealthData Gov report:
https://beta.healthdata.gov/National/COVID-19-Community-Profile-Report/gqxm-d9w9
Exactly. Absolute numbers give us little information. "Relative" numbers are what we need to see. California has @40 million people. That map makes it look bad in California when in reality we are @39th in death rate between states.
U.S. COVID-19 death rate by state | Statista
scottf200
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You are both 100% correct. My gut said that map seemed puzzling but I just saw it from a link above after I found the percentage one. I should have thought about it more as it seems so obvious now especially because I usually do focus on relative population when looking at this type of data.
Mods ... free free to delete the last map in my previous post.
I had read earlier in week about US letting in passengers from UK. Also knew about the new strain there that resulted in other countries to close their borders to UK travelers. So early on we close our border to flights from China because of concerns about virus spread yet now we don’t stop them from UK. What does that really say about the reason for China and not UK; and what does it say about a WH program aimed at infecting as many people as possible towards achieving herd immunity and a growing number of its citizens dying. These are rhetorical questions BTW as I think we know the truth on both.
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Eat Out to Help Out was a very bad idea and it helped kick COVID spread into high gear. For those who don't know the UK government tried to get the restaurant sector going again by offering a government incentive to eat at a restaurant. I think it was up to 10 pounds a person.
The pubs were allowed to be open but people could only have a "substantial meal" with each drink. If I pub wasn't able to serve a meal, they couldn't be open. There was a lot of debate over whether a Scotch egg was a substantial meal. (Scotch eggs sounds disgusting personally, but I guess they are popular there.)
Washington state already has a law requiring any place serving alcohol has to have the ability to serve hot food (not microwaved). There are some bars that actually serve decent food.
This is a good site for county level information
Per capita covid-19 cases and deaths
I really thought that California was following the science ... yet here we are with CA daily cases/million soaring. How many more masks can they wear? How much more locked down can they get?
Is it possible that the "science" is simply wrong?
Is it possible that the "science" is simply wrong?
JRP3
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No. What is "simply wrong" is pretending that the state is completely locked down and that people are all doing what needs to be done to stop the spread.
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