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Masks not enough to stop COVID-19's spread without distancing

In Physics of Fluids, by AIP Publishing, researchers tested how five different types of mask materials impacted the spread of droplets that carry the coronavirus when we cough or sneeze.

Every material tested dramatically reduced the number of droplets that were spread. But at distances of less than 6 feet, enough droplets to potentially cause illness still made it through several of the materials.

"A mask definitely helps, but if the people are very close to each other, there is still a chance of spreading or contracting the virus," said Krishna Kota, an associate professor at New Mexico State University and one of the article's authors. "It's not just masks that will help. It's both the masks and distancing."

which is just siting https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/5.0035072

which has this results image

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More people voted for Trump in California then any other state. So the science tells me that is a lot of people who probably don't believe in science - and have no problem advancing the spread.
"Don't accept the scientific findings". Science isn't a belief system, it's a method of investigation. Please don't bring science down to the level of ...
 
Florida's Keyontae Johnson has heart ailment linked to COVID-19

No surprises here, of course. Nearly killed him.

The NBA season without a bubble looks like it'll be interesting. Hopefully no one dies. I don't think we've had an active professional athlete die yet (in the US anyway), but it's just a matter of time. Several college athletes have died, of course.

Unsurprisingly, it does seem clear that being in peak physical condition and having access to the best medical care does improve outcomes. But it's certainly not a guarantee. Quite a few professional athletes in the US are on the long-term physically unable to perform/ injured reserve lists, due to COVID, at this point. It'll be interesting to see if they ever recover to 100% capability.
 
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Florida's Keyontae Johnson has heart ailment linked to COVID-19

No surprises here, of course. Nearly killed him.

The NBA season without a bubble looks like it'll be interesting. Hopefully no one dies. I don't think we've had an active professional athlete die yet (in the US anyway), but it's just a matter of time. Several college athletes have died, of course.

Unsurprisingly, it does seem clear that being in peak physical condition and having access to the best medical care does improve outcomes. But it's certainly not a guarantee. Quite a few professional athletes in the US are on the long-term physically unable to perform/ injured reserve lists, due to COVID, at this point. It'll be interesting to see if they ever recover to 100% capability.
But it's just the "flu"! :rolleyes:
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...45c1c2-449f-11eb-ac2a-3ac0f2b8ceeb_story.html

Britain finds 2 cases of coronavirus variant linked to South Africa

"Britain has found two cases of a coronavirus variant linked to South Africa, Health Secretary Matt Hancock said Wednesday, both of which are tied to contact with recent arrivals from that country.

Hancock announced new restrictions on visitors from South Africa and called on anyone who has recently been to that country or been in contact with a recent arrival from there to quarantine immediately, describing the measures as temporary while officials seek to better understand the variant.

“This virus is highly concerning because it is yet more transmissible and appears to have mutated further than the new variant that’s been discovered in the U.K.,” he said at a news conference.

South African officials announced last week that their scientists had detected a new variant that appeared to be fueling a rapid rise in infections there.

The appearance of the South African variant in Britain comes as its officials are already grappling with a worsening coronavirus outbreak linked to a different variant recently discovered in England."

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Somewhat related
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...s-cases-ranks-43rd-sequencing-check-variants/

"The United States has the most coronavirus cases in the world — but in sequencing cases to check for genetic changes, it lags at an astoundingly low rate.
Of the more than 18 million cases officially reported in the United States, just 51,212, or 0.3 percent, have been genetically analyzed for variants..."
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Guess with the huge numbers in the US both T-T-Q and genetic sequencing are pretty much impossible.
Then again, the UK has managed to analyze three times as many as the US.
 
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Florida's Keyontae Johnson has heart ailment linked to COVID-19

No surprises here, of course. Nearly killed him.

The NBA season without a bubble looks like it'll be interesting. Hopefully no one dies. I don't think we've had an active professional athlete die yet (in the US anyway), but it's just a matter of time. Several college athletes have died, of course.

Unsurprisingly, it does seem clear that being in peak physical condition and having access to the best medical care does improve outcomes. But it's certainly not a guarantee. Quite a few professional athletes in the US are on the long-term physically unable to perform/ injured reserve lists, due to COVID, at this point. It'll be interesting to see if they ever recover to 100% capability.

Like polio victims I think that we might see some segment of the population with permanent damage.

Anyone surprised?
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U.S. deaths in 2020 top 3 million, by far the most ever counted. COVID-19 is to blame

Deaths in 2020 are expected to top 3 million for the first time. As with so many other grim milestones this year, the COVID-19 pandemic is largely to blame.

There are also indirect deaths due to COVID too. This includes seniors who declined during lockdown because it was like being in prison and people who died of treatable conditions who either didn't seek treatment due to fear of getting COVID in the hospital or the inability of the hospital to take them.

My partner listens to a podcast from someone in San Diego. She was out jogging last week and tripped. She got banged up pretty badly, including a concussion and severe neck pain and a hairline fracture, but the hospital sent her home because they don't have any room.

On the other hand there were fewer traffic accident deaths and fewer industrial accidental deaths this year.
 
Anyone surprised?
:eek:

U.S. deaths in 2020 top 3 million, by far the most ever counted. COVID-19 is to blame

Deaths in 2020 are expected to top 3 million for the first time. As with so many other grim milestones this year, the COVID-19 pandemic is largely to blame.
I went through the CDC numbers a couple weeks ago and estimated we'd get close to 3.3 million vs. 2.84m in 2019. That's 460k growth vs ~30k expected, so 400-430k excess. Worldometers will end the year close to 360k. The difference is reporting lags (1-2 weeks worth at 20k/week) and some under-reporting, especially in the first wave.

I tried showing these numbers to the "most COVID deaths are really just mis-classified car wrecks and shooting victims" crowd, but it doesn't make a dent.
 
I tried showing these numbers to the "most COVID deaths are really just mis-classified car wrecks and shooting victims" crowd, but it doesn't make a dent

Maybe you should try again, lol. I do actually feel like they're searching for a new explanation these days; the mounting numbers reduce their weasel room. The "non-existent flu is actually because flu deaths are being counted as COVID deaths" "hypothesis" seems to have fallen apart as well, just because the astounding numbers make that look like a completely laughable theory.
 
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