Has anyone called PGE or .. and see if one can get a non export license so in theory, one would not have to pay the 8 buck charge?
I feel like my name and address are already on the PG&E
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Has anyone called PGE or .. and see if one can get a non export license so in theory, one would not have to pay the 8 buck charge?
Yes, but I think that is just similar to the procurement portion of the rate, that PG&E buys gas and passes on to you. That part changes pretty much every month on your bill based on their actual procurement costs, and I think will go up without needing CPUC scrutiny. I believe what @holeydonut is pointing to is another increase in the other gas charges, which are not tied to the cost of procuring gas but on PG&E's other costs of doing business (including profits)....Already happening in the UK and most/all of Europe:
Yes, but I think that is just similar to the procurement portion of the rate, that PG&E buys gas and passes on to you. That part changes pretty much every month on your bill based on their actual procurement costs, and I think will go up without needing CPUC scrutiny. I believe what @holeydonut is pointing to is another increase in the other gas charges, which are not tied to the cost of procuring gas but on PG&E's other costs of doing business (including profits)....
https://cpuc.webex.com/cpuc/onstage/g.php?MTID=e9886345083e39993a307cf1033584141
I skimmed through the Hawai'i Electric webpage for Solar, they have 2 options now, either of which is fairer than the NEM3 proposal.
1. Export OK, but you get paid zero for it between 9am and 4pm.
2. Export Not OK, so your gateway must be smart enough to never export.
Both of these sufficiently incentivize combined generation+storage solutions.
I skimmed through the Hawai'i Electric webpage for Solar, they have 2 options now, either of which is fairer than the NEM3 proposal.
1. Export OK, but you get paid zero for it between 9am and 4pm.
2. Export Not OK, so your gateway must be smart enough to never export.
Both of these sufficiently incentivize combined generation+storage solutions.
Hawaii electricity rates are even worse than PG&E (average of 35c a KWh) and lots of insolation make it the perfect state for residential solar. My understanding is that residential solar there is limited.I don't even know if you can "skim it" and understand it. It looks to me like the credit for export is fixed at 15 cents but the charges are 28 cents and up.
They have some detailed explanations which are completely incomprehensible.
And they also have the largest proportion of fossil fuel generated electricity than any other state. 62% of their electricity comes from petroleum based sources. Interesting considering they have no petroleum sources on the islands. A lot of imported oil and natural gas, which is why the rates are so high. Shipping cost for the fuel aloneHawaii electricity rates are even worse than PG&E (average of 35c a KWh) and lots of insolation make it the perfect state for residential solar. My understanding is that residential solar there is limited.
which has to arrive by shipAnd they also have the largest proportion of fossil fuel generated electricity than any other state. 62% of their electricity comes from petroleum based sources. Interesting considering they have no petroleum sources on the islands. A lot of imported oil and natural gas, which is why the rates are so high. Shipping cost for the fuel alone
And they also have the largest proportion of fossil fuel generated electricity than any other state. 62% of their electricity comes from petroleum based sources. Interesting considering they have no petroleum sources on the islands. A lot of imported oil and natural gas, which is why the rates are so high. Shipping cost for the fuel alone
But electricity doesn't have to be that expensive and doesn't have to rely on fossil fuels via ships. The big island can get some from geothermal. The other islands can gets some from water and tides. All the islands have constant trade wind to get a lot from wind. The SW sides of all the islands, where most of the people live, have daily sun to get a lot from solar. And they can always build a gen 4 nuclear reactor using spent fuel to provide for all of the islands, without the need to ship any fuel after the initial supply of nuclear.Yes, for one of the most isolated land masses in the entire globe, everything is expensive because it has to come by ship (except for the even more expensive things that come by air). Only a few agricultural things are gown locally - cows, milk, fruits, veggies. And the cheap Asia-manufactured goods don't even come directly from Asia, for the most part, they come by ship to the U.S. west coast first, and then are put on another domestic ship to Hawaii.
Even network TV show episodes ran one week later, because they had to be shipped from the U.S. (though I'm sure they were sent by air rather than by ship) until the 80's...
I think your plan might only cost $1/kWH.But electricity doesn't have to be that expensive and doesn't have to rely on fossil fuels via ships. The big island can get some from geothermal. The other islands can gets some from water and tides. All the islands have constant trade wind to get a lot from wind. The SW sides of all the islands, where most of the people live, have daily sun to get a lot from solar. And they can always build a gen 4 nuclear reactor using spent fuel to provide for all of the islands, without the need to ship any fuel after the initial supply of nuclear.
But electricity doesn't have to be that expensive and doesn't have to rely on fossil fuels via ships. The big island can get some from geothermal. The other islands can gets some from water and tides. All the islands have constant trade wind to get a lot from wind. The SW sides of all the islands, where most of the people live, have daily sun to get a lot from solar. And they can always build a gen 4 nuclear reactor using spent fuel to provide for all of the islands, without the need to ship any fuel after the initial supply of nuclear.
Which is why I said gen 4 reactors that runs on spent rods. They literally run on the waste that would otherwise be stored. Even when these rods eventually need to be stored, they will just be placed where they would have already been placed 50 years earlier. Gen 4 reactors reduce overall wasteI'm a proponent of nuclear power over long-term time horizons, but only a good deal for a place like Hawaii if they can find another state like Nevada to take the radioactive waste after 50 years...