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But why would the RNs be random? Wouldn't there be a risk of generating two duplicate random numbers? Sequential makes more sense, especially if they need to trace a defect to a particular batch of parts or orders.
This was from a while back so perhaps things have changed.

 
Supply Chain Quality tracking would not be tied only to a customer order number on a front facing system. My experience is Aerospace, but auto has similar SCQ track and trace methodologies.

Random RN is fine as long as they do a duplicate check at generation and maybe even at row (record) insertion time.
Yes, they can perform a check for duplicates each time, but why do it this way? In this case, how is a random generator beneficial or advantageous over sequential RNs?

Nevermind, @digitalboi posted above that RNs are sequential across all Tesla products.
 
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That's a bummer if so...I don't want to be waiting for an ACH back for $15k on Tesla's timeline if I were to reject delivery...

Wonder if this is something else that SA's have a different answer for as well.
If you reject a delivery, Tesla will hold on to your deposit until you a) you cancel the order or b) pick up another vehicle. If you cancel your order at the time of delivery, the delivery center will issue you a check for amount that was withdrawn from your bank account.
 
Yes, they can perform a check for duplicates, but why even introduce that extra step? In this case, how is a random generator beneficial or advantageous over sequential RNs?

For sure, I can't think of many good reasons to do random. Perhaps a marginal privacy measure or something such of little value. However, from a systems perspective it's not hard to handle and would be minimal effort / invisible to end user (customers) - if that's what they are doing (I have no knowledge if it is true or not they use random)
 
I haven’t heard from my store leader or operations mgr since last Wednesday. Not a good sign regarding this firmware update. Pickup is in Bloomington IL. They gave my VIN which won’t appear on my account until the firmware update is done and even sent me pictures, but still doesn’t know when I can pickup. 😂
 
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If you reject a delivery, Tesla will hold on to your deposit until you a) you cancel the order or b) pick up another vehicle. If you cancel your order at the time of delivery, the delivery center will issue you a check for amount that was withdrawn from your bank account.
Thanks for the heads up - can't say any of those are great options though with how large the line is for these cars...

Essentially, Tesla is saying take the car or take your choice of pounding sand by 1) waiting months to get a diff car while we hold on to your cash or 2) cancelling your order altogether at delivery losing $100 and also going back to the end of the line if you decide to reorder.

Edit: Add "lose your lower locked in price" to #2 as well lol
 
Hey just chiming in with my experience with Carvana, the guy showed up look at the car and did for like maybe 2 whole collective minutes, turned it on and looked at dash, then said everything looks good and your money should show up in X amount of business days. Signed some papers and he was off on his way. The loan was paid off and the cash showed up earlier than he estimated.

I disclosed some damage (a scuff on the bumper) and it seemed like he could not have cared less about it, and it only impacted the quote by a few hundred bucks.
Hey just curious were you leasing the car that you sold? I got a decent offer from Carvana above my payoff amount for the lease which is up next month. So I was wondering how Carvana would handle that? Would they payoff the lease and remit the balance to me?
 
Got excited too quick about having a June 1-21 delivery date. Just checked today and it changed to June 7-27... 😑 NO VIN yet...Ordered May 2.
I ordered 5/12 in Orlando. I spoke to a SA today (different matter) and he informed me to expect a late June to early July delivery. I started with a date range last week when I ordered, then changed to 5 to 11 weeks over the weekend. I got the bright idea of changing to blue from the grey so now I have no “estimated delivery” at all. I’m barely a week in and I can barely wait, so I can only imagine what the rest of you are going through. Stay strong! But in my defense, my car was totaled 2 weeks ago so I’m car-less lol. Happy waiting to all!!!
Interesting I ordered the day before you in Boca Raton and I have a 5-12 week window with my sa saying at least 12 weeks out 😞 good luck hopefully we get it sooner. Also no car right now borrowing my father’s.
 
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You cannot provide your down payment via cashier's check. Once you're matched to a VIN and final payment is required, you'll be able to pay your down payment online. They won't deliver unless any down payment is already paid (this is what the delivery specialist told me yesterday).
But what if you don't want to do a down payment? I'm just trying to figure out at what point am I LOCKED into what I have entered in the delivery profile page? Currently I have loan terms that I've been approved for, with X amount down payment, etc... I haven't clicked "CONFIRM" yet because I was worried about that, but it sounds like I can go ahead.
 
Hey just curious were you leasing the car that you sold? I got a decent offer from Carvana above my payoff amount for the lease which is up next month. So I was wondering how Carvana would handle that? Would they payoff the lease and remit the balance to me?
Not sure on that mine was financed thru BMW Bank of North America. I imagine it's possible that Carvana could do everything between the lender directly, which is most likely the manufacturer's banking arm just like in a finance payoff. If you paid directly Carvana would then just pay you though and I feel like it wouldn't be that risky, but something to keep in mind that you could be left holding the bag if Carvana changed the offer or something. Also would probably take longer since you'd have to retitle for you buying, then retitle again when Carvana bought the car.
 
But what if you don't want to do a down payment? I'm just trying to figure out at what point am I LOCKED into what I have entered in the delivery profile page? Currently I have loan terms that I've been approved for, with X amount down payment, etc... I haven't clicked "CONFIRM" yet because I was worried about that, but it sounds like I can go ahead.
I mean no one has a gun to your head for the down payment or the loan from Chase, US Bank, or whoever Tesla is using because you clicked a confirm button. It seems you have a lower risk tolerance and should read everything you're agreeing to, but at the end of the day if you don't take delivery there's no down payment or loan. Until you take delivery your agreement with X, Y, Z bank is contingent on a future agreement (vehicle purchase agreement). Until you sign on the dotted line for the vehicle for X method of payment, you can change that method of payment.

If you wanted to continue with Tesla financing and put less down I imagine you could reach out to Tesla to change that, but it could change your loan offer to a higher rate since the lender would have higher percentage of loan to value. If you want to put less down you could go and find a credit union loan offer that's been covered here pretty thoroughly recently, that allows you to roll tax, title and other fees into the loan so you can put zero down.
 
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Hey just curious were you leasing the car that you sold? I got a decent offer from Carvana above my payoff amount for the lease which is up next month. So I was wondering how Carvana would handle that? Would they payoff the lease and remit the balance to me?
Thats exactly what Carvana did for me and my lease. They paid off the balance to Hyundai Financial and wrote me a check for the remaining amount. They offered me $1500 more than the payoff.
 
You cannot provide your down payment via cashier's check. Once you're matched to a VIN and final payment is required, you'll be able to pay your down payment online. They won't deliver unless any down payment is already paid (this is what the delivery specialist told me yesterday).
Well I am speaking from experience when I bought my M3P back in September, I didn't want to give them my money until I saw the car in case I had to refuse it if it had bad panels etc. They will take a cashier's check, in fact I'm doing the same for the Y and they told me no problem. So long as they have the money prior to you taking it home its fine.
 
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Back to this?!?!
 
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But what if you don't want to do a down payment? I'm just trying to figure out at what point am I LOCKED into what I have entered in the delivery profile page? Currently I have loan terms that I've been approved for, with X amount down payment, etc... I haven't clicked "CONFIRM" yet because I was worried about that, but it sounds like I can go ahead.
When I purchased an inventory Model S in August 2019, I didn't need to provide a down payment. They shipped the car to my local Service Center for free and my whole family went together to inspect it. I paid with a combination of lender check and a personal check. No issues and we drove the new S home.

I am in the same boat this time though, in that I accepted Tesla's financing and am now approved for a better rate through DCU. However, I don't believe we're locked into it, just that we accept the terms and are locking in the rates. I believe this to be true because I had accepted Tesla's trade-in on the Model S, but then AutoNation offered $1,000 more. I texted my SA and he said "no problem, just take the AutoNation offer" because accepting Tesla's trade-in only locks in the amount that Tesla offered, but doesn't lock you into any contract.