mathnerd88
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Yes, and it's these past 3 years that have allowed the dealers to show their greed and deception due to the scarcity of cars.
I'm surprised you were able to get a Mustang Mach E GT in 2021 off the dealer lot for MSRP. Are you in a less populated area? Here, you couldn't even get a Toyota Corolla locally without a 5k markup. There was only one Toyota dealer in socal willing to sell Rav4 Primes for MSRP and we waited 6 months for my MIL's car. Have dealers lying about inventory/price over the phone. The best part is for the average consumer, after getting fleeced by the sales guy you wait to get fleeced by the finance guy.
I would consider myself a savvy car shopper. I called 30+ Porsche dealerships throughout the United States trying to get on a list for a 911 GT3 at MSRP and found one willing to do it in writing in North Carolina but that never materialized over the last 2-3 years. All the local dealers wanted 30k above sticker. In hindsight I probably should've pulled the trigger at 30k above as that's considered a good deal now and I would've been able to enjoy the car for 2 years.
I admit I was in a less populated area in PA at the time. The MME GT was from a local dealer. However, most of my other cars I bought were from MD dealerships. I believe MD gives out really good deals.
I was also shopping for a Rav4 Prime, and it was easy to find them at MSRP in MD, however, the wait list was 5-6 months during the height of the pandemic and I needed a car sooner than that at that time.
I think Porsche is a different story- as you go to higher end vehicles, you have customers with more money to spend, so they're likely to sell vehicles with a price hike.