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Discussion: HW.4 Suite - Availability, retrofit, suitability etc.
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Occhis
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Yeah, we need to keep giving tax money to oil companies and the defense dept instead of citizens, rather than promoting policy to help clean up the environment.
Assuming you're getting a MYLR*, I think the only current difference is that the Austin car may come with a package shelf in the rear. Not sure the Fremont cars have that yet.
*Unless Tesla reached out to you regarding getting the 'MY AWD', which is what they are calling the 4680-battery car, you're getting a 2170-battery MYLR.
No, the Govt. needs to stop trying to pick winners and losers. We definitely need a strong defense but that’s also over inflated and could use some money pulled back. The Govt. sucks at almost everything when it comes to spending someone else’s money. You can’t have a true capitalist market if Govt. throws its weight around. They hurt businesses more then they help.
Occhis
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I thought the government was there for the benefit of the people. You know, “we the people” and all that. So maybe the people should be the winners, but it rarely works that way.
What does incentives and rebates to some and not all have anything to do with “We the People”. Taking from the many to give to the few has nothing to do with a Republic. Giving rebates to buy $80k has nothing to do with the Constitution. Not everyone wants EVs, or those who don’t quality or those you can’t afford an ev have their hard earned tax dollars wasted on yet another incentive they helps the few? Battery manufacturing isn’t without its own environmental issues. If people truly wanted to help the environment, take a bus, train and or ride a bike.
Currently Fremont cars have been shipping with the Global aka Matrix headlights and the Austin cars are using the Premium aka non-matrix headlights. Both factories provide cargo covers now. Austin has a more modern paint shop but I've seen no one compare them. Build quality is a toss up...you read good and bad coming out of both factories. Austin doors are harder to close but loosen up over time...not sure why this is?
I think its the weather stripping. My paint looks great, the battery, not so much.
I'll be taking delivery tomorrow and initially I considered rejecting the VIN and wait for investor day, but come to think about it even if they announce HW4 in March it's unlikely to come to Y/3 in a month, since I need a car before the end of April there is really no reason to wait. I don't care about a faster FSD computer but additional camera and radar is definitely nice to have.
Tha_Ape
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My guess is HW4 will be able to actually achieve FSD. They've learned a lot from HW3 and have adjusted cameras and locations of sensors.
Personally, I dont care about FSD, I love driving. I just want the car to drive itself for long stints on the highway and in stop and go (which current, basic AP does well with). My only complaint is all the nagging. I have a Prius Prime with OpenPilot and it will drive in stop and go forever with out a single nag. So relaxing...
All that said, I wouldnt hold off on buying a car for HW4, but its a personal decision. I think theres a near 0 chance of a retrofit becoming available from Tesla, and even if someone frankenstiened together one (which I'd imagine is possible with enough money and time) it would be easier/cheaper to just sell your HW3 car and buy one with HW4.
Personally, I dont care about FSD, I love driving. I just want the car to drive itself for long stints on the highway and in stop and go (which current, basic AP does well with). My only complaint is all the nagging. I have a Prius Prime with OpenPilot and it will drive in stop and go forever with out a single nag. So relaxing...
All that said, I wouldnt hold off on buying a car for HW4, but its a personal decision. I think theres a near 0 chance of a retrofit becoming available from Tesla, and even if someone frankenstiened together one (which I'd imagine is possible with enough money and time) it would be easier/cheaper to just sell your HW3 car and buy one with HW4.
On mine you really got to close the door hard to get a secure close, not overly hard, but its harder then I think should be to make it close and the car detect it as closed. My battery would not charge except with supercharging and needed a complete replacement after 500 miles.
Who knows. Hoping March 1st will give a better idea. It will be really interesting how they transition if it really includes all the hardware changes that are being speculated.
Guys, consider this, we've seen the Highland cars with camo front and rear for how many months now? And Giga Shanghai has just started line upgrades to probably produce the cars in the second half of the year. We haven't seen anything on the MY yet and likely will see camouflaged test vehicles or mules months before production, and also drastic changes like HW4 will require production stoppage for modifications, given these facts the chance that we can see MY transition to HW4 before M3 Highland is extremely low.
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