I hate to put it in these terms - but this is really a form of consumer fraud at the end of the day. Tesla cannot sell a product with features that don't exist - the reasoning at the end of the day is really immaterial - when the fact is that 60% of the features in EA currently are not available for the consumer. Tesla needs to be held accountable for these bad business practices in my view. I'm a long time Tesla stockholder - but when a consumer spends 6k on EA today - they should get what they paid for day one - not a promise to get something months or years from now. I would recommend everyone who purchases EA report this consumer fraud issue to the appropriate state and/or federal regulatory authorities for investigation. That's likely the only way Tesla is going to change their suspect business practices moving forward. If Tesla wants to sell EA with 60% of the software missing and disabled - then discount the current cost of EA by 60% so that you're actually paying for what is really available - and allow the customer to purchase the remaining 60% when it actually becomes available in the future. Beta participation for any software not ready for prime time should be free of charge or heavily discounted - until the product is ready for prime time. Just my two cents of course.
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Discussion: Model Y General Waiting room for orders placed After January 2023
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I hate to put it in these terms - but this is really a form of consumer fraud at the end of the day. Tesla cannot sell a product with features that don't exist - the reasoning at the end of the day is really immaterial - when the fact is that 60% of the features in EA currently are not available for the consumer. Tesla needs to be held accountable for these bad business practices in my view. I'm a long time Tesla stockholder - but when a consumer spends 6k on EA today - they should get what they paid for day one - not a promise to get something months or years from now. I would recommend everyone who purchases EA report this consumer fraud issue to the appropriate state and/or federal regulatory authorities for investigation. That's likely the only way Tesla is going to change their suspect business practices moving forward. If Tesla wants to sell EA with 60% of the software missing and disabled - then discount the current cost of EA by 60% so that you're actually paying for what is really available - and allow the customer to purchase the remaining 60% when it actually becomes available in the future. Beta participation for any software not ready for prime time should be free of charge or heavily discounted - until the product is ready for prime time. Just my two cents of course.
Mr. Wonderful
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A 20-30 amp breaker is ample if you want to charge at 3 mph.
If you want to use a 40 amp charger, you will need a 14-50 NEMA outlet installed
along with a 50 amp breaker. If you have a Tesla wall charger which charges at 48 amps,
would need a 60 amp breaker.
I had a date change today. Moved to April 1st-15th
I'll take it!
I'll take it!
Some improvement in my EDD today. I ordered on 2/2. EDD now April 25 - May 30 instead of into June. They are probably starting to slowly figure out the Q2 deliveries.
I think a 2-week EDD window is supposed to be a good sign. Hopefully a VIN should be imminent.
So are you only planning to charge with the 110 on a mobile charger? For a continuous load like a charger, you should only use 80% of the amp rating when charging. So 20 amp could charge at 16amps and 30 could charge at 24 amps. I had a 50amp circuit on 6ga wire put in and charge at 40amps at home. You also want to make sure your plugs are rated for continuous duty. Charging is not a place to cut corners.
This is a little dry, but informative on home charging:
I use a 240/20 line that I originally put in for a table saw or the like 30 years ago. I get about 15 mph or more accurately about 8%/hour at 240V at 16A.
Does anyone know any way to track where is your car while on the way for pick-up?
Yeah, it appears they are slowly reeling some of us back in to earlier slots.
My order date for Las Vegas delivery got pushed today to April 5 - May 3.
MYLR W/B 19" No Options
OD - Push order button 1/17 PM, Order agreement date 1/18
EDD1 - January to March
EDD2 - February 8 - March 31
EDD3 - March 6 - March 31
EDD 4 Updated 3/4 - March 27 - 31
EDD 5 Updated 3/12 - March 28 - 31
EDD 6 Updated 3/22 - April 5 - May 3
No Text for 1-2 week VIN alert
VIN not assigned
Location - Las Vegas, NV
MYLR W/B 19" No Options
OD - Push order button 1/17 PM, Order agreement date 1/18
EDD1 - January to March
EDD2 - February 8 - March 31
EDD3 - March 6 - March 31
EDD 4 Updated 3/4 - March 27 - 31
EDD 5 Updated 3/12 - March 28 - 31
EDD 6 Updated 3/22 - April 5 - May 3
No Text for 1-2 week VIN alert
VIN not assigned
Location - Las Vegas, NV
The only option I've been able to leverage is to ping my sales rep via text every few days and ask for an update on the whereabouts of my vehicle - as apparently they can "see" where your vehicle is once a VIN has been assigned via some kind of ping process internal to Tesla.
Tesla does not offer this ability within their app today - though I think they should. One possible rumored reason that Tesla does not provide this visibility is because doing so may prevent Tesla from rerouting your ordered vehicle to other local buyers to boost end of quarter numbers, and then pushing out your order date. I've seen repeated posts on here that this may be the case with some customers whose orders are being pushed out from late March into April/May/June suddenly. Whether this is true or not is anyone's guess really - because no one has a way to validate these assertions AFAIK.
We're on the exact same schedule, except I ordered 1 day earlier.
I wonder if there is just already a large backlog of orders for Seattle they're going through and the SC can only deliver so many cars in a single day? Something weird is going on.
davewill
Active Member
Seattle is kinda like San Diego, in an awkward logistics corner that isn't on the way to anywhere else. It reduces flexibility for rerouting cars to or from there. Here it causes higher prices on some items, like gasoline. I think the only reason Tesla deliveries aren't a huge issue here is because we are so close to LA/Orange County.
As expected my EDD moved from end of March to April 13 to May 18. It’s kind of good as well, no need to rush, I have my spring break back now.
I agree with you on awkward locations. Las Vegas is similarly isolated from any of the factories. No major direct route.
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