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How come GM super cruise doesn't require steering wheel torque, is it more advanced than Tesla AP/FSD?Yes, it's not going away.
No, it's a different system. Only works on premapped freeways.How come GM super cruise doesn't require steering wheel torque, is it more advanced than Tesla AP/FSD?
Do some independent reading on your own (vs on a Tesla biased board), and come to your own conclusion....How come GM super cruise doesn't require steering wheel torque, is it more advanced than Tesla AP/FSD?
They do require steering wheel input. Saying it's an option is a bit misleading and while the volume knob is a supplement to torque, it doesn't directly replace it.Do some independent reading on your own (vs on a Tesla biased board), and come to your own conclusion....
Also Tesla's dont require steering wheel torque. Its an option. Tesla has configured the software to allow you to simply adjust the steering wheel volume for example(as another option, or adjust the speed via the other scroll wheel), in order to get past the steering wheel nag when in FSD or when in AP.
If thats not enough, there are plenty of aftermarket options (search ebay for "tesla steering counterweight") that are perfectly legal to use. Keep in mind no matter what, YOU the driver are always 100% responsible for the car no matter what you use or dont use. Makes zero difference.
[speculation] It likely will not be needed AFTER single stack integration (Beta v11) and Beta testing for a while. In all likelihood Tesla will we replace the legacy AP stack with the new highway stack rather than maintaining and updating 2 separate software stacks for the same purpose. However this will still likely be at least 6 months or more (Elon time) before standard AP users get it.Yes, it's not going away.
NO, AP does NOT require any steering wheel input at all to keep AP engaged/enabled. When the nag appears, you simply increase or decrease the volume via scroll wheel one notch. The nag immediately goes away (until the next time it comes on, then repeat the process).They do require steering wheel input.
Pressing or scrolling on the steering wheel controls to make any change is steering wheel input. Doesn't have to control the direction of the car to be an input but it does prove you have your hands on the wheel.NO, AP does NOT require any steering wheel input at all to keep AP engaged/enabled. When the nag appears, you simply increase or decrease the volume via scroll wheel one notch. The nag immediately goes away (until the next time it comes on, then repeat the process).
This is intentional and by design.
Semantics? Because I literally change the volume with the tip of one finger and no hand on the wheelPressing or scrolling on the steering wheel controls to make any change is steering wheel input. Doesn't have to control the direction of the car to be an input but it does prove you have your hands on the wheel.
How much torque do you need to turn the dial. You are being super pedantic here….NO, AP does NOT require any steering wheel input at all to keep AP engaged/enabled. When the nag appears, you simply increase or decrease the volume via scroll wheel one notch. The nag immediately goes away (until the next time it comes on, then repeat the process).
This is intentional and by design.
I guess that means Tesla will be providing free installs of a million or so interior cameras for interior camera-less S and X cars?[speculation] It likely will not be needed AFTER single stack integration (Beta v11) and Beta testing for a while. In all likelihood Tesla will we replace the legacy AP stack with the new highway stack rather than maintaining and updating 2 separate software stacks for the same purpose. However this will still likely be at least 6 months or more (Elon time) before standard AP users get it.
Nope. Just stating facts.How much torque do you need to turn the dial. You are being super pedantic here….
Do you use the input your volume control on the touchscreen, or the steering wheel?Semantics? Because I literally change the volume with the tip of one finger and no hand on the wheel
I touch the scroll wheelDo you use the input your volume control on the touchscreen, or the steering wheel?
Yes.How come GM super cruise doesn't require steering wheel torque, is it more advanced than Tesla AP/FSD?
The scroll wheel on the steering wheel would be a steering wheel input then, no?I touch the scroll wheel