No free trial if you need HW3. The only ones that could get that are cars that start shipping with HW3.I dunno, in considering buying despite making this thread. I'm happy they are not trying to pull one over FSD early purchasers! Too bad there isn't a way they could correct the issue without a price increase.
FOMO indeed.
Marketing genius they are...
If I buy now I will be accepting that it may be offered later for less it under free trial though.
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Don't buy FSD for $2k more. [from 2019 - FSD upgrade not available for 2k at this time]
- Thread starter Glamisduner
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Just bought the upgrade. Tesla did not hire Jim Keller to design a custom FSD chip for nothing. The current 2.5 hardware won't ever be able to handle the frame rates and resolution required for FSD. It's a no-brainer at the current cost if you want those upgrades in the future. Andrei Karpathy is working everyday with the autopilot team to bring about FSD. Eventually it will be here, and better processing capability is in the only path to getting major improvements to EAP and FSD. Taking the 60% price cut while it exists.
Has it made it to your cart yet (at least once)? You know you want in this pool!I dunno, in considering buying despite making this thread. I'm happy they are not trying to pull one over FSD early purchasers! Too bad there isn't a way they could correct the issue without a price increase.
FOMO indeed
Marketing genius they are...
If I buy now I will be accepting that it may be offered later for less it under free trial though.
rking0122
Member
From a legal standpoint, Elon tweeting something probably does not constitute a legal promise by Tesla, Inc. Nor do discussions in shareholder meetings. The reason his tweets matter to the SEC is that they believe his tweets affected the stock markets.
From a PR standpoint though, if not followed through, it would be a PR nightmare. Much like these price changes were, which caused them to change course more than once.
For me, I am convinced enough that at some point Tesla will do this.
I do kind of wish the price cuts had remained however both on the cars and the software upgrades. I personally think those were needed to make Tesla "mainstream" and affordable for adoption by more of the population, which would have ultimately probably been good for all Tesla owners. (More scale.)
From a PR standpoint though, if not followed through, it would be a PR nightmare. Much like these price changes were, which caused them to change course more than once.
For me, I am convinced enough that at some point Tesla will do this.
I do kind of wish the price cuts had remained however both on the cars and the software upgrades. I personally think those were needed to make Tesla "mainstream" and affordable for adoption by more of the population, which would have ultimately probably been good for all Tesla owners. (More scale.)
I dunno, I think allowing the purchased of AP might be enough. The does the 35k model 3 really have competition? Plus nothing is really changing on new cars, 3%? The AP price changes only affect people who already purchased.
Knightshade
Well-Known Member
Depends what you consider competition I guess... for folks who don't care about much more than a commuter econobox that doesn't use gasoline, certainly it has some (and did before it was even for sale) in things like the Leaf and the Bolt.
For folks who want an EV with significantly more performance/handling not so much.... (I'd mention the SC network as a differentiator, but to anyone for whom that's a huge deal they're probably not looking at the 35k SR anyway)
I think the supercharging network is MORE important if your looking at a 35k 3. I don't know anyone who likes the bolt or lead more than a 3? Don't get me wrong, I think the bolt is a good ev, but given the choice the 3 is a no brainier, especially for less money, better battery tech, the ability to get updates, more performance, much nicer interior, charging network etc.
SammichLover
Banned
Maybe? It is still something to the trip once or twice/year person. It isn't worth as much, just the hassle of getting a rental and driving not-your-car for however many day, which until they do it they probably won't realize how much it'll make them appreciate their EV. Still it is something of a mental barrier.
SammichLover
Banned
Bolt has three things no Model 3 has. Heated steering wheel, that bird's eye view thing, and taller seating position but smaller footprint for parking in very tight spaces.
The first one is only vaguely of interest to me and the other two have no draw for me, but there's going to be a non-zero number of people that care a good deal about those things.
Knightshade
Well-Known Member
Why?
If you don't care/need the range over 200 miles you sure don't need much over 300.
If you take one big road trip a year take the $10,000 you saved and rent a car- you're still way way ahead on money.
Really? We've seen some folks on here mention things they prefer on both to the 3....
The bolt still has the full tax break- it's significantly cheaper right now. The leaf even moreso.
I did say for those who don't care about performance though- so that goes out the window. After that, the Tesla is MORE money, the "better" battery is irrelevant to the typical American who goes an average of 10-30 miles, total, per day.... so is the charging network.
nicer interior is relative, some might well prefer one of the other cars interiors for various reasons some already mentioned.
Garlan Garner
Banned
Well, Well, Well,
I can recall a few days ago people saying to me ....."hey!!!! Just accept being screwed. Nothing you say is going to matter. Stop your whining."
Tesla is bringing Autopilot prices ‘back to normal’, Elon Musk admits mistake
I try to tell my kids and everyone else - SPEAK UP!!!! when there is something wrong. SPEAK UP when you aren't treated fairly.
Be respectful but SPEAK UP!!!!
I can recall a few days ago people saying to me ....."hey!!!! Just accept being screwed. Nothing you say is going to matter. Stop your whining."
Tesla is bringing Autopilot prices ‘back to normal’, Elon Musk admits mistake
I try to tell my kids and everyone else - SPEAK UP!!!! when there is something wrong. SPEAK UP when you aren't treated fairly.
Be respectful but SPEAK UP!!!!
because if you have a SR car you will be more dependent on charging network and charge rates when you do take a trip, for example San Diego to LA and Back, your going to need charging. Not exactly a road trip or even an overnighter, the thing is the 3 can do it, the Bolt you better stay the night. Bolts tax credit is going away too. When I priced out a loaded bolt (which it needs to be loaded to compare close to a 3) it was over 44,000 model 3 even after tax credits is actually less money than a loaded bolt.
SunCharged
Member
It's ok, everyone has an opinion, I do hate all the "entitled" and "stop whining": comments. IMO People should be upset when they have not been treated properly. I'm embarrassed to admit I just purchased FSD. Elon's tweet that they are correcting the issue was enough for me to put some faith back into them. I didn't get the best deal on it, but that's ok. I was against it mostly because there was no point to upgrading when I created this thread, and I don't like unequal treatment of like customers. Also I was getting tired of the price games and tesla rewarding groups of people for seemingly no rhyme or reason (esp for those 3k FSD purchasers, and originally for P3D- owners). I still think FSD might drop lower but after reading everyone opinions on them not making it much cheaper for current model 3's due to the need for a hardware retrofit, and now knowing the price is going back up (No idea for how long? a month? a year? an hour?)... Well price going back up IS a reason to purchase that was not a thing when I created this thread. I'm not sure it's a valid reason but I just bought it due to FOMO.
Damn I'm a hypocrite
Go ahead and rub it in if you all want.I was hoping FSD would be offered to P3D- customers rather than 5k, but ill just give 2k back to them after they restored my faith.
I jumped on the $2k FSD as well. Funny that you did as well.It's ok, everyone has an opinion, I do hate all the "entitled" and "stop whining": comments. IMO People should be upset when they have not been treated properly. I'm embarrassed to admit I just purchased FSD. Elon's tweet that they are correcting the issue was enough for me to put some faith back into them. I didn't get the best deal on it, but that's ok. I was against it mostly because there was no point to upgrading when I created this thread, and I don't like unequal treatment of like customers. Also I was getting tired of the price games and tesla rewarding groups of people for seemingly no rhyme or reason (esp for those 3k FSD purchasers, and originally for P3D- owners). I still think FSD might drop lower but after reading everyone opinions on them not making it much cheaper for current model 3's due to the need for a hardware retrofit, and now knowing the price is going back up (No idea for how long? a month? a year? an hour?)... Well price going back up IS a reason to purchase that was not a thing when I created this thread. I'm not sure it's a valid reason but I just bought it due to FOMO.
Damn I'm a hypocrite
I was hoping FSD would be offered to P3D- customers rather than 5k, but ill just give 2k back to them after they restored my faith.
gilscales
Banned
TOO LATE! I just bought it, DAMN, I wish I would have read this thread first as there really isn't any other threads or info on this stuff anywhere!
gilscales
Banned
could it be as high as 50,000 takers? I seriously doubt it but that would be 100 mil!
Yeah it’s got to be a crazy number. I would really be surprised if this wasn’t all planned.
Then again your average Tesla owner probably had no idea this was all going on so the number could be a lot lower.
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