DenkiJidousha
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Is current pricing £3400 for EAP and the same again to further upgrade to FSD? So same total as the £6800 to go directly to FSD?
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YesIs current pricing £3400 for EAP and the same again to further upgrade to FSD? So same total as the £6800 to go directly to FSD?
Is current pricing £3400 for EAP and the same again to further upgrade to FSD? So same total as the £6800 to go directly to FSD?
It shouldn't be forgotten, the benefit gained from purchasing upgrades can also be measured relative to the owners personal circumstances, ownership route, enjoyment received and brand 'buy'in'. For me, I purchased FSD when I bought my M3P in Sept'19. This was after dropping a £2k deposit back in 2016 - and then furiously saving during the next 3 years, so I was fortunate enough to make a full cash purchase. I don't consider myself a 'muppet' for purchasing FSD, and nor should anyone else if they can reasonably justify the £ investment, are aware of its limitations and are not only comparing it to a 'cost/value' measure. Despite the faults and constraints of FSD/EAP (most of which in the UK are due to UNECE, not Tesla), I'm constantly amazed by the cars capabilities, more so when I see improvements via updates. Is FSD/EAP worth the money if only considering the cost to purchase? maybe not - but worth is also measured by more personal, less tangible benefits; all of which have made FSD an enjoyable and worthwhile upgrade for me.
It shouldn't be forgotten, the benefit gained from purchasing upgrades can also be measured relative to the owners personal circumstances, ownership route, enjoyment received and brand 'buy'in'. For me, I purchased FSD when I bought my M3P in Sept'19. This was after dropping a £2k deposit back in 2016 - and then furiously saving during the next 3 years, so I was fortunate enough to make a full cash purchase. I don't consider myself a 'muppet' for purchasing FSD, and nor should anyone else if they can reasonably justify the £ investment, are aware of its limitations and are not only comparing it to a 'cost/value' measure. Despite the faults and constraints of FSD/EAP (most of which in the UK are due to UNECE, not Tesla), I'm constantly amazed by the cars capabilities, more so when I see improvements via updates. Is FSD/EAP worth the money if only considering the cost to purchase? maybe not - but worth is also measured by more personal, less tangible benefits; all of which have made FSD an enjoyable and worthwhile upgrade for me.
I remember just before the Model 3 was launched in the UK and all the discussions about whether or not to buy FSD. So many Tesla "noobs" (as my 11 year old daughter would call them) simply refused to listen to those who had already experienced so-called "FSD" in the S/X models.
Also worth remembering that when Model 3 was first launched, FSD was iirc £4900 (£4800?).
Many people when discussing FSD and its worth were possibly not aware of the, by then, discontinued EAP option, so treated EAP and FSD as an atomic unit. At the time the Model 3 launched in the UK, EAP was a very highly regarded option that many people were happy to pay for. It may be fair to say that EAP on HW3 is currently a retrograde step to earlier options, or at least earlier options before they were knobbled by the release that bought in UN/ECE r79 to earlier vehicles in 2019. So at point that Model 3 became available to order in UK, everything was looking rosy for EAP even if the FSD part was some time off.
Now EAP is back on the menu. for those that did get the £4900 option, the FSD part worked out at a £1500 upsell, so comparable with the other available options that had no tangible benefit other than satisfying a personal preference.
Unfortunately the £4900 was soon upped to £5800 which many early purchasers were realigned with when the price of the vehicle was reduced by iirc £2500, but for many, an extra £900 for FSD when they were just handed a £2500 discount was a tradeoff worth taking. Alas, at £6800 and according to EM, destined to rise (US have had 2 price rises that UK have not yet had), the cost of FSD over EAP is, at least for short term purchases, probably something where little value is to be had. But EAP is I think still a good compromise for those that use their vehicles in its operational domain, especially as it is only a matter of time before a promised revision to UN/ECE r79 is published that relaxes many of the issues that cause most of the operational issues that beset EAP in its current form.
FSD is apparently going to go on subscription “soon”, but I presume they would need to solve the issue of lease cars not having access, or it being free (I think that’s the case with Premium Connectivity?)
I also don’t think FSD subscription will be particularly cheap. I’d be surprised if it was less than £150 a month given the full price of FSD, and the fact that Elon has said that buying outright “would be cheaper”.
My money is staying firmly in the bank until subscription arrives. Upgrades do not stay with the vehicle when sold on (no resale value) and do not stay with the user account.
Upgrades do not stay with the vehicle when sold on (no resale value) and do not stay with the user account.
Thank you, but this side of the pond it does not work.You have to keep your finger on the button and stay close to the car.
Thank you, but this side of the pond it does not work.