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UPDATE: Montreal & Drummondville
Well, I had some house cleaning to do... So to escape it, I went to visit the Montreal AND Drummondville site tonight :) I didn't expect to go to Drummondville, but I was excited from what I saw in Montreal !

Montreal: They have dug even further that I expected, so I think they will go fully underground and remove the pole on their land making the view even better. They have poor the concrete with blanket on them, so that mean tomorow they can begin installing the SuperCharger and passing the wire ! Progress goes well enough that I believe now that it will be ready for the Montreal opening on december 5th !

Now that got me excited, so I went to drummondville hoping for as much good news ! Sadly, nothing seem to have happened :( The only good news is the fence are still present, so there still chance that they will do work before the holiday ! Maybe once the Montreal crew finish in MTL, they will go and do Drummondville ? They probably have 1 or 2 week of work to do top in drummondville, which would fit with the december 13 cutoff point !

I'm not going to visit Kingston now, it a bit far and I'll have to charge for more than 3 hours to make it at home !
 
UPDATE: Montreal & Drummondville
Well, I had some house cleaning to do... So to escape it, I went to visit the Montreal AND Drummondville site tonight :) I didn't expect to go to Drummondville, but I was excited from what I saw in Montreal !

Montreal: They have dug even further that I expected, so I think they will go fully underground and remove the pole on their land making the view even better. They have poor the concrete with blanket on them, so that mean tomorow they can begin installing the SuperCharger and passing the wire ! Progress goes well enough that I believe now that it will be ready for the Montreal opening on december 5th !

Now that got me excited, so I went to drummondville hoping for as much good news ! Sadly, nothing seem to have happened :( The only good news is the fence are still present, so there still chance that they will do work before the holiday ! Maybe once the Montreal crew finish in MTL, they will go and do Drummondville ? They probably have 1 or 2 week of work to do top in drummondville, which would fit with the december 13 cutoff point !

I'm not going to visit Kingston now, it a bit far and I'll have to charge for more than 3 hours to make it at home !

PLUS Maybe you should get that house work done now!

Thanks for the report. Just visited the Montreal store today on Ferrier... looking good.

Kingston better be up and running soon or I'm gonna call Elon myself
 
Roughly 60 chargers, about $15 million - peanuts, really, in the grand scheme of things.

Through taxes people pay for bridges that cost hundreds of millions of dollars, heck even one highway interchange can be hundreds of millions. But heaven forbid we as a society commit to infrastructure that would eliminate pollution and greenhouse gas emissions from a major source of those emissions. Nope, can't do that. That's unthinkable.

+1!
 
Politics is about optics. How would it look if public money was spent so the one percenters can power their expensive toys? Unfortunately it has to come from private funds even though we are paving the road for cheap electrification of the roadway.
 
Politics is about optics. How would it look if public money was spent so the one percenters can power their expensive toys? Unfortunately it has to come from private funds even though we are paving the road for cheap electrification of the roadway.

I understand your point, but how does it look to give $8000 or $8500 to buyers of the Tesla Model S in Quebec/Ontario? I would think that the optics of that would be worse. Yet that is the situation.

If any public money is involved, I would argue it is better spent on fast EV charging than on subsidizing fossil fuels! The difference in cost is orders of magnitudes!

Eliminating Fossil Fuel Subsidies | Canada's Economic Action Plan
http://www.imf.org/external/np/pp/eng/2013/012813.pdf
 
The $8000 is controversial however very few people know about it. Also it's the same $8000 weather one buys a leaf or a tesla. If money is spent on superchargers it would have to benefit all EVs or be perceived as a perk for the rich. In socialist Quebec, anything benefiting higher income earners is ripped apart by the masses even though we pay most of the taxes.
 
Why assume we're just talking Tesla? Why not subsidize all Level3 (or other) EV chargers? More than subsidize, I'd say fund 100%. This is a miniscule amount of money yet what it enables is disproportionately beneficial to all. The "masses" should be FAR more outraged that even a cent of their taxes are going to fossil filth.
 
I agree, but it would be a hard sell is all I'm saying.

I agree. And that's the reason I made the comment in the first place. :) It is a bizarre society we live in which is ok with all the internal combustion engines polluting the air and contributing greenhouse gases to the atmosphere, and actively subsidizes the fuel those engines need. We are paying private companies to poison us, basically. There is a technological solution which is here now, and would cost far less to subsidize (though I would rather see no subsidies at all) and the reaction of the general public is anti-EV.

I just scratch my head at that.

Sorry to take us off topic... we are meant to be discussing actual installations of Tesla superchargers in Eastern Canada, I think. :)
 
Here is my updated proposed Canada wide SuperCharger network map :)

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=z3jn9JWcp2Xs.kH52DM3MSZqo


So there is currently a 14 SuperCharger planned right now. We would need an additional hundred to reach this. I've tried to cover all the city that is shown on Google Maps in a certain zoom level.

I'm all for more superchargers but I don't know how many Canadians drive cross country like that. Maybe it's just me in the GTA but most of my driving is along the 401 to ottawa / quebec and then to major centres in the US. Perhaps this is a great longer term goal.
 
I guess I must have misheard Tesla when they stated their mission was to "accelerate the advent of sustainable transport". Perhaps that should be amended to say "accelerating the advent of sustainable transport where it's convenient for us to do so"?

If they really want to get people off gasoline, they should find a way to serve any market where there is interest, regardless of population density. The Vancouver store operated out of a tiny office with some Tesla posters on the wall for the longest time. Tesla can't do something similar to serve smaller markets where it may not be currently feasible to go the full store/service center route? This should be relatively easy while vehicles come solely from the Fremont factory. Isn't that how it was done in the Roadster days?
 
Isn't that how it was done in the Roadster days?

In the early Roadster days there was an office in downtown Toronto with two people. They had a service ranger who roamed the country fixing cars.

Then there was another Ranger, and then the Mississauga service center opened. By the time first Canadian Model S appeared they had a real store and more locations in the works.

But I don't think you can keep doing things that way. As you move towards a more mass market product you move from the early adopters to the average consumer. They have different expectations.
 
I guess I must have misheard Tesla when they stated their mission was to "accelerate the advent of sustainable transport". Perhaps that should be amended to say "accelerating the advent of sustainable transport where it's convenient for us to do so"?

If they really want to get people off gasoline, they should find a way to serve any market where there is interest, regardless of population density. The Vancouver store operated out of a tiny office with some Tesla posters on the wall for the longest time. Tesla can't do something similar to serve smaller markets where it may not be currently feasible to go the full store/service center route? This should be relatively easy while vehicles come solely from the Fremont factory. Isn't that how it was done in the Roadster days?

History is littered with failed EV companies that put social issues ahead of the bottom line. I find Tesla's approach of actually having a working business model both refreshing and necessary. Tesla still gets heat for building a "luxury" car rather than an affordable one for the masses right away, but the wisdom of this choice has become clear. They are accelerating the advent of sustainable transport under the constraint that they need to be profitable and survive. I trust they are making the right decisions as far as that goes.
 
Here is my updated proposed Canada wide SuperCharger network map :)

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=z3jn9JWcp2Xs.kH52DM3MSZqo


So there is currently a 14 SuperCharger planned right now. We would need an additional hundred to reach this. I've tried to cover all the city that is shown on Google Maps in a certain zoom level.

While we're indulging in fantasy, you need one more in Parry Sound. Right now it's pretty dicey in the winter, getting from Sudbury to the Barrie SC - assuming that it actually exists someday.:rolleyes: Of course, hopefully we'll have 120 or 130kwh batteries by then anyway.