Elon Tweeting about Thailand and Reputation

[WarpedOne]

Yeah, I know I preached don't ignore.
I am unable to follow my own preaching.

I am weak. I cannot take the BS anymore.

 

[ValueAnalyst]

Speaking of Thailand:

 

[scaesare]

One bird is on my list already. the second is close. Both clog up the discussion with the same type of crap.
Then the thread derails into the usual pattern....explain why the "issue" is not an issue other people chime in and on it goes.

My signal to noise ratio is better with the ignores in place.

You've flipped the bird?

 

[neroden]

Can someone tell me why Musk's comment is not libel?

In the US, if you think something is true when you say it, it is not libel.

I didn't check myself, but someone else said they checked Unsworth's Facebook page and it was full of pictures of young girls. I didn't want to know if that was true. But if it was, well, uh, mmm.

 

[dondy]

I've speculated about Elon Musk's behaviour at the Q1 Earnings call and lately his tweets responding to a diver that with a smug smile told Elon to stick his sub where it hurts. (Pedophiles live in a universe where sticking something where it hurts is normal I suppose).
What was Elon thinking with his tweets ? He's not stupid but it seemed like he was helping shorts to have a new story that would damage the stock price.
Think about it. Could it be that Elon was deliberately testing the market. If the SP only dropped insignificantly as a result then a lot of shorts would realize that any assault on the stock is futile. Elon himself tried without any "succes".
A stock where nothing interesting happens may have a tendency to just wither.
Just a theory but maybe Elon is just cleverly playing the stock market as he has done in the past.

I don't think he is playing with the stock options. He is not that smart and not that stupid. It's job for his buddies at Founders Fund. It's pretty obvious Musk doesn't think much when he tweets. He is venting.

 

[schonelucht]

In the US, if you think something is true when you say it, it is not libel.

Federal or State? Regardless, Vernon is also weighing his options under British law where defamation, slander and libel are easier to prove.

 

[neroden]

Federal or State? Regardless, Vernon is also weighing his options under British law where defamation, slander and libel are easier to prove.

Musk's apologized. It's likely that the UK doesn't have jurisdiction over comments made on Twitter. I don't think Unsworth wants to get into a long court case where his personal life is dredged through. Britain did straighten out its libel laws a few years ago (2014) so that they no longer have a presumption of guilt.

 

[schonelucht]

Musk's apologized. It's likely that the UK doesn't have jurisdiction over comments made on Twitter.

Why not?

 

[bhtooefr]

Unless Musk was in the UK while making those comments, he's likely shielded by international law, at the very least if he never enters the UK.

 

[TheTalkingMule]

If there's one thing we can learn from this mess it's that we should have been on the beach for the last two weeks like all the smart folks. Nothing of importance happens from mid-July through Labor Day.

 

[bhtooefr]

(There were a few deleted posts claiming that Unsworth's girlfriend was 22 (she's actually 40), and that they had been together for 7 years (that part is true). This post was in reply to those. Deleted the link citing that she's 40 because the others have been deleted.)

 

[schonelucht]

Unless Musk was in the UK while making those comments, he's likely shielded by international law, at the very least if he never enters the UK.

Elon Musk is too public a figure to just ignore a UK court ruling. I would not be surprised if the cost of not being able to have any assets at all under control by institutions that honour UK seizures outweighs by far any sum he'd have to pay as a settlment. In fact, it's not impossible it's already settled and that the public apology was part of the deal.

 

[Tslynk67]

So true. I engaged him once on stocktwits, and decided he's not worth any of my time. He was gloating, or something like that about an accident where someone died in Tesla... After a quick exchange, a comment or two, and seeing how much he needed to show how smart he was, and how his p... was bigger than mine, I wrote him off forever. Probably shouldn't have spent this time writing this post... Funny thing was, there were som many good comebacks to what he was saying, but why argue with an idiot?

Agreed with that. He's can be articulate and logical - his financial bear thesis made a lot of sense, but then there was all the rest...

 

[neroden]

"Montana" was articulate and logical, but he started with crazily false premises. Often provably false premises. And he got really really mad when people pointed out that his premises were debunked by, for instance, formal Tesla SEC filings, press releases from suppliers, eyewitness testimony, teardowns, etc... if I remember correctly, he refused to believe documented delivery numbers more than once.

I might consider digging up some of the old lies, but I'm not looking at his stuff again because he gets paid per click. The lawyers can do that.

I may be misremembing this one, but if I remember correctly, he came up with some lunatic conspiracy theory that Tesla was selling Teslas at bulk to a car auction house, even after being informed that (a) Tesla sold ICE trade-ins to that auction house, and (b) you could check the public records of the auction house to see that the vehicles transferred to them by Tesla were ICE cars, and (c) the only Teslas transferred to the auction house came from sources other than Tesla. After being informed of this, no correction in the article, naturally.

 

[EngRyan]

God dammit Elon get your ass off twitter. Someone grab his phone.
Elon Musk on Twitter

 

[Right_Said_Fred]

God dammit Elon get your ass off twitter. Someone grab his phone.
Elon Musk on Twitter

Why? It’s his way to relax and letting off steam. And of communicating with 22 million followers.

 

[EngRyan]

Why? It’s his way to relax and letting off steam.

I'm all for the silly and tech stuff but mentioning pedo guy again, really?!?

 

[MarcusMaximus]

Why? It’s his way to relax and letting off steam.

He's bringing up the pedo thing again. It was over, the world had moved on. Now we have to hear about this again for the next few days. All while the press is actively going after his job.

 

[shlokavica22]

Is Elon actually implying that the guy might indeed be a pedo?
"It's strange he hasn't sued me" kindda goes in that direction. Or am I reading too much into it?

 

[Electroman]

He was provoked by a guy... but then you shouldn't get provoked unless it is a direct lie on Tesla and his cars. I think Elon is certain that guy is what he said he is.

But the question is, are you allowed to call someone publicly even if he is one?

This *sugar* is going to run for another few weeks.